There has been fairly predictable outrage this week at the revelation by Judith Collins, the minister in charge of the Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) and Security Intelligence Service (SIS), that China spied on our Parliament in 2021. China has denied the accusation, but knowing Judith Collins as I do – and have done for more than 20 years – I don’t doubt that she has good reasons for her claim.
What is not clear from media reports, however, is that the previous Government was aware of this spying incident, now three years ago. The intrusion into the Parliamentary computer systems was effectively blocked not long after it was discovered. The previous Government chose not to announce what had happened.
In Thursday’s New Zealand Herald, Matthew Hooton claims that the last time New Zealand was “attacked by a so-called friend was in 1985 when France sent spies from its Directorate-General for External Security (DGSE) to bomb the Rainbow Warrior at Auckland’s Marsden Wharf”.
But what we all need to remember is that spying is something that Great Powers, and even some not-any-longer Great Powers, do much of the time.
Also in Thursday’s Herald there is an article by David Fisher in which he reminds New Zealanders of the extent to which the US has used New Zealand as a base for its spying without the knowledge of even the relevant Government minister:
“The Five Eyes spy equipment that was operating out of New Zealand’s electronic spy agency largely without its knowledge appears to be a [US] National Security Agency tool named ‘Apparition’ that has been used to hunt targets in the United States’ War on Terror – and to spy on China.
“The Apparition system was among those disclosed by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden in 2013…
“The dates of the installation at a Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) facility match with information publicly disclosed last week by the Inspector General of Intelligence and Security Brendan Horan…
“The discovery of the system came in 2020 after it malfunctioned leading to Horan’s three-year-long inquiry.
“In his report last week, Horan said he was concerned that an intelligence ‘capability’ controlled by a ‘foreign partner’ had been able to operate without seeking Beehive sign-off or without the bureau’s Minister being told of its existence or purpose. Horan said he was also concerned the bureau’s current leadership had no knowledge of the system until they were told in 2020 after it broke down.”
Nearly nine years ago, in July 2015, Reuters reported that:
“The US National Security Agency tapped phone calls involving German chancellor Angela Merkel and her closest advisers for years and spied on the staff of her predecessors, according to WikiLeaks….
“WikiLeaks published what it said were three NSA intercepts of Merkel’s conversations, and data it said listed telephone numbers for the chancellor, her aides, her office and even her fax machine.
“’The names associated with some of the targets indicate that spying on the Chancellery predates Angela Merkel as it includes staff of former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder (in office 1998-2002), and his predecessor Helmut Kohl,’ WikiLeaks added in a statement.
“The latest WikiLeaks release comes just over a week after it published a report showing the NSA wiretapped the communications of two successive French finance ministers and collected information on French export contracts, trade and budget talks.”
It is pretty clear that China is not the only country which works hard to ascertain what other countries are doing, and contemplating doing. Spying is what Great Powers do.
As I said at the start of this column, I have absolutely no reason to doubt the statement by Judith Collins – we entered Parliament together in 2002 and became close friends.
But it is important that we all remember that the Government appears to be very keen to steer New Zealand into a closer military alliance with what are sometimes called “our traditional friends” at a time when many New Zealanders are more aware both of the importance of China to our economic prosperity and of the potential instability in the foreign policy of those traditional friends.
What better way to do that than to give maximum publicity to the fact that China is spying on us, even though that happened and was known about three years ago?
Disclosure of interest: For the last 10 years, I have chaired the New Zealand subsidiary of ICBC, the largest bank in China.
Also in Thursday’s Herald there is an article by David Fisher in which he reminds New Zealanders of the extent to which the US has used New Zealand as a base for its spying without the knowledge of even the relevant Government minister:
“The Five Eyes spy equipment that was operating out of New Zealand’s electronic spy agency largely without its knowledge appears to be a [US] National Security Agency tool named ‘Apparition’ that has been used to hunt targets in the United States’ War on Terror – and to spy on China.
“The Apparition system was among those disclosed by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden in 2013…
“The dates of the installation at a Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) facility match with information publicly disclosed last week by the Inspector General of Intelligence and Security Brendan Horan…
“The discovery of the system came in 2020 after it malfunctioned leading to Horan’s three-year-long inquiry.
“In his report last week, Horan said he was concerned that an intelligence ‘capability’ controlled by a ‘foreign partner’ had been able to operate without seeking Beehive sign-off or without the bureau’s Minister being told of its existence or purpose. Horan said he was also concerned the bureau’s current leadership had no knowledge of the system until they were told in 2020 after it broke down.”
Nearly nine years ago, in July 2015, Reuters reported that:
“The US National Security Agency tapped phone calls involving German chancellor Angela Merkel and her closest advisers for years and spied on the staff of her predecessors, according to WikiLeaks….
“WikiLeaks published what it said were three NSA intercepts of Merkel’s conversations, and data it said listed telephone numbers for the chancellor, her aides, her office and even her fax machine.
“’The names associated with some of the targets indicate that spying on the Chancellery predates Angela Merkel as it includes staff of former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder (in office 1998-2002), and his predecessor Helmut Kohl,’ WikiLeaks added in a statement.
“The latest WikiLeaks release comes just over a week after it published a report showing the NSA wiretapped the communications of two successive French finance ministers and collected information on French export contracts, trade and budget talks.”
It is pretty clear that China is not the only country which works hard to ascertain what other countries are doing, and contemplating doing. Spying is what Great Powers do.
As I said at the start of this column, I have absolutely no reason to doubt the statement by Judith Collins – we entered Parliament together in 2002 and became close friends.
But it is important that we all remember that the Government appears to be very keen to steer New Zealand into a closer military alliance with what are sometimes called “our traditional friends” at a time when many New Zealanders are more aware both of the importance of China to our economic prosperity and of the potential instability in the foreign policy of those traditional friends.
What better way to do that than to give maximum publicity to the fact that China is spying on us, even though that happened and was known about three years ago?
Disclosure of interest: For the last 10 years, I have chaired the New Zealand subsidiary of ICBC, the largest bank in China.
Dr Don Brash, Former Governor of the Reserve Bank and Leader of the New Zealand National Party from 2003 to 2006 and ACT in 2011. Don blogs at Bassett, Brash and Hide - where this article was sourced
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