Erica Stanford, New Zealand's Minister of Education has tried to downplay her new amendment that defines a successful learning outcome as indoctrination into maori ideology.
Anglo Saxon dissects Erica Stanford's defence of the Education and Training Amendment Bill No 2.
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The scary apart about all this is the absolute confidence with which the pro-Maorification brigade are going about transforming our country. We have absolutely no say in it. We don't really have a political party to give us any democratic certainty. It seems to me, after partaking in and reading comments for about five years, on various blog sites, that we, the people, are going to have to get behind just one party at the next election. It might be ACT. It might be NZF. We still need to proceed in a democratic manner but maybe we need to compromise on the party we would normally vote for. The aim would be to get enough votes to elect people who truly represent the wishes of the majority of New Zealand people. Education is one vital sphere but this whole issue of water claims and seabed and foreshore claims is crucial as well. These politicians are really letting us down.
Is this a new iteration of "horses for courses?" We've suffered and rid ourselves of one neo-Marxist divisionist, it appears we now have to suffer another. The cost to our country, and it's children, will be immense.
Agree. And first up , there must be a referendum: democracy or ethno -state ? The people's wishes will be formally recorded.
For now, democracy might still win. 5 years hence, doubtful.
Had this referendum + outcome already existed, Stanford would never have attempted to impose the Maori religio-cultural view - a useless move.
Now we know why Luxon has never allowed a referendum. The He Puapua agenda can proceed easily by stealth and in the murky " no referendum will be allowed" vacuum.
Terrifying. I thought the intent of improving education was to improve the productivity and output of the country. But no, it is just to achieve maori equity (now taken to mean equalty) most easily acheived by continuing the recent practice of dumbing down and/or dispiriting the able so they better match maori. Sadly the arguments will not be presented fully and simply in msm and the vast majority will remain ignorant of the deceit and mischief afoot.When it comes to dealing with and trusting maori Stanford should have a chat with helen Clark.
Janine - You are so right. I very much enjoy reading your thoughtful comments and couldn’t agree more. These politicians are seriously letting us down. At the next election we need to vote with every ounce of wisdom we’ve got. I feel like this country is on a knife edge. The last election was critical. The next one is now even more so. I am drawn to the Act MPs. They all bring highly relevant practical experience to their roles. They are about as far from political studies graduates with, at best, NGO work experience as you can get. I don’t see any other party offering better.
Anonymous at 9.26. Thank-you for your comment. I wrote my comment after listening to Michael Laws interviewing an articulate, part-Maori interviewee regarding tribal desire to own and manage all the water in New Zealand. Apparently this was promised by Bill English, of all people. Most of us had no idea this was going on. It would be interesting to now get Bill English to comment. The conclusion would be the New Zealand people have been duped big time. I am prepared to vote for any party who openly states they will get rid of all separatism.
wikipedia ' She believes that the Green Party could work with National, saying that if the Greens "could just relax a little bit... they could do so much good."[4] Stanford says that her blood "runs blue and it always will", but acknowledges a touch of green, saying "maybe it's a tealy blue".
Erica does not mind her kids coming home from school speaking pigeon english with biro scribbles on face and forearms, her mate Potaka smiles benevolently at her,
Safe within the Party ............
Imagine how bad it will get if the 3-headed labour beast gets back in next year. Will all "colonist" subjects just be totally banned? Will english be phased out? Government can say that s is not an official language of aotearoa etc.
No horrendous scenario can be excluded.....
Notice that Stanford uses the terms "Equitable outcomes" and "Equal outcomes" interchangeably. They are NOT the same! "Equatable" means fair and reasonable in a way that gives equal treatment to everyone. "Equal" means the same. So Stanford is now saying that the purpose of education in New Zealand is that Maori children have equal outcomes to all other children. What does this exactly mean? That all Maori children are supposed to end up with the same level of educational achievement as all Asian or Indian children???? Give me a break; this is not only impossible but also insane. This is commie bullshit.
Why is NZ being run by the desires of our leaders rather by the desires of the people who put them in charge?
Ardern and Luxon would deny being dictators, but that's what they are.
It's simple - if your goal is equity for part-Maori, just dumb everyone else down!
Kay, that's exactly what the system has been deliberately doing for decades.
If they are spending time indoctrinating kids with this Maori crap, then the kids are missing out on learning something useful - in effect, they have been dumbed down to the level of the Maori kid who finds it easier to do kapa haka than maths.
Where have we heard this before?
I hear it every time politician’s lips are moving.
I would like to express one more comment as this is a very serious matter. It could change the face of our nation, along with the myriad of other racist policies. Various commenters are saying NZF support this bill in its entirety. If this is true, that is extremely disappointing for NZF voters. I could not vote for a party that continues down this track.
Stanford's "Engrish" is substandard. Cannot differentiate "equitable" and "equatable"..... no understandyy... !!! Twat - She is a product of recent university... Gawd Almighty !!! Most of them are so in today's gummint!!!
I understand that there is legislation coming to WIPE all reference to treaddy stuff in ALL legislation in one go later this year/early next. Doing it bit by bit is messy...... Please God, thats true?
It would be very disappointing if NZF supports it. Good grief. Is it political opponents trying to tar NZF or is it real? Where can we read or hear about this?
Reply to anonymous 12.40. I went onto Hansard. I'm not really au fait how this all works but NZF did seem supportive at the first reading. Maybe someone else can clarify?
I would sleep better at night and next election choice would be much simplified if Jones and Peters were not maori. A clean up of the Treaty references is very attractive but the prospect seems slight. Both Stanford,s and Luxon''s attitudes beyond belief. They ae surrounded by too many maori highly accomplished in deceit.
I believe that we are all wrong - these kids need to be able to read te reo and speak Maori to be understand any messages from the Gummint, Councils, Air Aotearoa, or anyone in authority and have an ever increasing vocabulary of fabricated new words.
In an emergency they need to be able to make Hato Hone know that they need a Waka tururo, and they should also send a waka from pirihimana.
Thank you
How do you if a politician is lying? His/her lips are moving.
What? ...
>""Equatable" means fair and reasonable in a way that gives equal treatment to everyone. "Equal" means the same."
Anon 9:24, your definition of 'equitable' actually refers to equality of opportunity, whereas the word specifically refers to equality of outcomes. You do get this right in the next couple of sentences.
I wonder why all the schools had been renamed Kura School, instead of Papamoa School, Halswell School, Taradale School. It's very confusing.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks" - From William Shakespeare's play Hamlet.
Erica Stanford's excessive denial and over-the-top reaction shows that she is more than likely telling a lie. It also signals a lack of sincerity. She is not fit to be a Minister! If Luxon doesn't remove her he will be seen to be complicit in supporting her actions.
Replying to Janine at 7.03 pm who says: "we, the people, are going to have to get behind just one party at the next election. It might be ACT. It might be NZF.... "
It is unlikely that National will get a mandate to govern alone in 2026. Luxon will need Act, NZ First or both. What is needed is for both potential coalition partners to have the same bottom line for going into coalition: No more Maorification. And to make that absolutely clear to voters (and why) well before the election!
Why not just teach anything Maori before or after normal school hours or during the weekend and on a non compulsory basis. Interest and attendance from teachers and students would be virtually nil.
And likewise university students rather than suffering compulsory indoctrination in Maori issues could spend the same number of hours doing some form of public service, or heaven on earth, being forced to sit in the library and study their chosen subjects.
Again interest in Maori issues would be revealed to be virtually nil. I thought we had freedom of speech, freedom of thought in this country ?
What all students need to achieve is what we used to have in NZ Traditional Education which includes work ethic, discipline , students learning self control . perseverance, rote learning of tables, memorizing of facts , quiet classrooms . not noisy open class rooms . spelling lists , grammar , homework, finishing work, marking work , correcting work, traditional morality , much revision, handwriting , the teacher as the director of learning not child centered learning, reduced group work and more individual work.cancelling the numeracy project., big reduction in screens, text books reintroduced.... All those things that we used to have and hence achieved high academic achievement on international tests. Just introducing structured learning without also those aspects mentioned above will not achieve significant improvements . Maori culture and religion will set us backwards .Observation shows so much of Maori culture is destructive to learning .
I've heard it all now, so there is a new acronym, recently hijacked by maori. It used to be "STEM", science, technology, engineering and maths... Wait for it....Now it's "STEMM"... the last "M" being, you guessed it, that contrived invention called "matauranga maori".. These people have no shame. NZ is high speed on it's way to being an ethno-hole. You could argue it already is.
Her majority is over 20.000 - valuable M P.......
By definitons standard for the level I did very well at pri and sec school. But my slow brain assimilated little in class. Most ability was from the textbooks where can flick back and forth. I cannot imagine screen learning. I find screen reading of laws, of Council reports etc very difficult; get lost among the pretty pictures and tedious to check another location, formerly mere page turns. An old textbook retained (as many have been after 65 years) can be consulted in a jiffy, whereas to dig up some old programme is a major and often impossible exercise.
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