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Tuesday, July 18, 2023

Peter Williams: Was the apology really necessary?


Iwi should be flattered by the Spanish haka

There’s an old saying which goes something like this.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

So why have some Māori become so upset and precious about the Spanish women’s football team doing a mock haka a few days ago?

What the Spaniards were doing was having a bit of fun. But importantly, at the same time they were acknowledging which country they were in, and paying respect to the culture of this country’s original settlers.

Nothing more, nothing less. It should have been received in the generous and friendly spirit in which it was meant.

But the reaction of the local iwi Rangitane was almost embarrassing in the offence that was taken.

They were going to leave a powhiri unless an apology was received.

Do iwi leaders feel so insecure they can’t take a compliment?

What was even worse was the accusation, firmly rejected, that the Dutch team were also disrespecting the haka during a warm-up sequence before training.

Does the search for offence know no limits?

Every culture, every country has its traditional dances.

In Spain, they love to share the flamenco.

If a New Zealand football team, or indeed any group of New Zealanders in Spain, was videoed stomping their feet and clicking their fingers above their head do you honestly believe any Spanish community leaders would be threatening a diplomatic incident the way Rangitane leaders reacted?

Let’s not forget one of the most popular episodes of any “Dancing With The Stars” series is the Paso Doble.

It’s a wonderful piece of Spanish dance culture given to the world with joy and fun.

When ballroom dancers all around the world do a Pasa Doble do you ever hear queries about “cultural appropriation”?

Of course not. Spain is privileged to share its dances with the world and don’t even mind if some of those performing are not very good and have a laugh about it.

Similarly, the Highland Fling and Scottish Country Dancing has been sent to the world to be enjoyed by thousands of non-Scottish participants.

You never hear complaints about that, not even from the rabid types at the Scottish National Party.

What’s so wrong with peoples of the world enjoying and appreciating others dances and cultures?

That’s why the offence and victimhood expressed by iwi to an innocent piece of fun was unnecessary and schoolmaster-like, as if to say tut tut, don’t do that again because it upsets us. We are special and our culture is special and only for us.

This is a big, joined-up world where modern communications ensure we all know plenty about the way others live and what are significant aspects of others’ culture.

Iwi should be flattered to the hilt that some elite Spanish athletes want to perform a tiny slither of a haka. It shows Māori heritage is known and respected on the other side of the world.

The world would have a lot less tension if we all stopped being perpetually offended.

Peter Williams was a writer and broadcaster for half a century. Now watching from the sidelines. Peter blogs regularly on Peter’s Substack where this article was sourced.

19 comments:

Doug Longmire said...

It just shows how touchy and eager to take offence some of the tribes are. Playing the poor me/victim/colonised/payback time is just their normal attitude.

Anonymous said...

And one of the comments from Rangitane was along the lines - we need to stand up for our culture and show the world how much it means to us.

Really? the misguided arrogance that the world even cares.

Anna Mouse said...

Iwi should be flattered to the hilt that the Spanish did not arrive in NZ before the English. If they had the tiny slither of a haka would have ceased to exist.

Robert Arthur said...

One of the saddest things to happen in my lifetime is the demise of humour. The use of a cannibal war dance at sporting events is surely a mockery in itself. Why should matters maori be beyond? They mock colonists. RNZ programmes adopt exaggerated accents for early colonists. The use of a cannibal war dance at sporting events is surely a mockery in itself.

Anonymous said...


Clear proof that New Zealand - notably Aotearoa - is a country which lacks real maturity.

Anonymous said...

"It just shows how touchy and eager to take offence some of the tribes are. Playing the poor me/victim/colonised/payback time is just their normal attitude."

You have to admit, this strategy is paying very high dividends for them!

Anonymous said...

Speaking of the Dutch, which tourist or visitor to Holland hasn't posed in one of the outsize wooden clogs at every airport or scenic attraction in the country?

I've got at least a dozen photos, taken over 40+ years of occasional visits, of myself, my wife, kids, friends and so on.

Anonymous said...

Yes, it's getting embarrassing to say you are a kiwi. I think our sports teams should stop doing the haka now. It used be seen as a fun thing but now it's become political. The all blacks should stop too.

Ray S said...

Childish in the extreme.
Time for our national teams to stop doing the haka.
Would love to see the reaction of Maori.

DeeM said...

They're suffering from Minority Syndrome. It's a very recent condition which makes the sufferer believe they are far more important and relevant than they actually are.
Symptoms include easily taking offence, assuming the cultural high-ground, and worst of all, believing they are superior to other races and nationalities.

This sad delusional condition affects only a small number of politically active, self-seeking individuals so, fortunately, most of the population are naturally immune.

There is no known cure but it is thought that simply ignoring the sufferer or telling them "to pull their head in" can have some success.

Anonymous said...

Can I suggest, to reduce "further harm, inconvenience, misappropriation, insult cultural and/or otherwise etc, etc..", that the following -

- All Blacks
- All NZ Military
- NZ Police
- and any other Pakeha groups

refrain from learning any Maori Haka, performing same, this hopefully will reduce, what has been outlined at the beginning of this statement.

If Maoridom was aggrieved at what an International Group "attempted", then we should let them have sole right to learn and perform, their Haka.

That way International Rugby games can then start earlier, with out the AB's wasting their collective time.

ANON, of New Zealand

Doug Longmire said...

"You have to admit, this strategy is paying very high dividends for them!"

Dead Right, Anon. They are raking in billions !!

Peter Bacos said...

Maori culture now is a state religion.Any criticism of it is treated as blasphemy or hesesy. It reminds me of those countries where Islam is the state religion and any criticism of it is forbidden. Usually gangs take the law into their own hands, like the hacking to death of about 80 secular bloggers in Pakistan some years ago, or the murder of a judge who spoke up for secularism. Then there's the battle over the hejab which women have been fighting against for years. I believe in Iran it is forbidden for a woman to go in public with the face exposed. There are morality police who patrol the streets and apprehend women infringing the law; last year there was the notorious case of a young woman beaten to death by these religious vigilantes. Then there's Saudi Arabia, but we daren't criticise that country, as all golf players are rushing to join their golf tournament, and all other sports codes are queueing up for Saudi billions, and such is the absence of morality in the world that no questions are asked about its appalling human rights record.
Any criticism of Maori culture is met with ferocious abuse. You're a white supremacist or racist scum just to mention some of the assaults thrown at those who have questions to ask about the Maorification of our society. Look at the way Christianity is treated. Forty years ago The Life of Brian came out and was one of the most successful of the Monty Python franchise. The Spanish playfully mocking the haka showed only a fraction of that mockery, but look at the outcry; it has provoked more furore among the Maori zealots than the burning of the Koran did in Sweden recently among Jihadi fanatics. Maori religion/culture is sacred and no criticism of it it tolerated. We no longer live in a liberal democracy.

Anonymous said...

so why is my grandson made to do kapahaka at his primary school - where there are no Maori, but lots of Asian pupils. His heritage is much more civilised - European. And look at how old the Asian cultures are.
Will he get into trouble if he's caught doing a haka without thinking

stopcogovernance said...

I have lived in a staunch Maori community for 14 years. I know very well what this 'haka offence' is really all about. It about Maori wanting to control people, like they used to control slaves pre-1840. It's about tribal rule.

They want you (i.e. us) to live in a perpetual 'treading on Maori egg shells' world, where everyone has to bow and scrape to them, all so that they can control and manipulate us. Ultimately, they want to subdue us, so that eventually we will be in a slave - master relationship.

I flatly refuse because I can see what is going on here. It's high level pyschological warfare, and I am not buying into it. And nor should you.

Don said...

Being an activist is dead serious and any sense of fun goes out the window. It is as well these thin skinned wet blankets were not around when I was playing Rugby for Petone more years ago than I care to recall. We had a team haka we performed at any opportunity, belted out with gusto in spite of its lack of authenticity. Quite a few of us were Maori and we enjoyed it like everyone else.

Anonymous said...

I feel sure that those players identify as Maori, so what we have is a group of Maori doing a Haka. It happens many times a day so where's the problem.

Don said...

The problem would be in the satire of the words plus the accenuated actions:

Who are - Who are - who are we ?
We are - we are - Pee toe nee!
Oamaru - Timaru - Waipukarau...
We are the boys that make a row...
EEE - AYE - (crouch to ground followed by mighty leap)
BLOWFLY!!!
The Spanish girls were pathetic compared with us.

Russell J said...

Russell J
Don’t know why the POMS don’t Morris dance against the Haka, and so on. The game was invented by the English COLONISTS OH NO are the Māori celebrating being colonised after all.,