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Wednesday, August 23, 2023

Robin Grieve: The Waitangi Tribunal must go


The Waitangi Tribunal has recommended the Government enters discussions with the Maori people of New Zealand on changes to the constitutional makeup of the country to give effect to their ‘treaty rights” in the country’s constitutional processes and institutions. This recommendation was made as part of stage two of its inquiry. Stage one of the inquiry claimed that Maori in the north did not cede sovereignty to the Crown.

In making this recommendation for constitutional change the Tribunal demonstrates there is no place for it in a modern, progressive, multi-cultural liberal democracy. It must go.

When the Tribunal was set up in 1975 the legislative preamble stated that it was desirable that a tribunal be established to make recommendations on claims relating to the practical application of the principles of the Treaty.

Any practical application of these undefined Treaty principles in a modern, progressive, multicultural, and liberal democracy would in anyone’s view have to be consistent with principles that are inherent and essential to such a society. Democracy based on equal suffrage, egalitarianism, and respect for individual human rights that are equal no matter one’s ethnicity, to name some.

The Waitangi Tribunal’s recommendation shows it has no interest in working within these principles. It has overreached its original mandate and purpose in making a recommendation such as it did.

I think most of us supported the idea that the Tribunal was a reasonable way to right what wrong it could and set all New Zealanders on a path forward together. Settling historical land claims seemed reasonable and desirable if we were to move forward together, and even more so when a date was set after which no new historical claim could be lodged. There would be a time in the future when all this was behind us was the vision this promised. That was fifty-three years ago though. How long does it take?

Even worse than the fact that settling historical land claims could keep the Tribunal going for over half a century is that, despite the deadline on new claims, the Tribunal has set itself up with a timeline of work on new non-historical claims going forward many decades. The tribunal is now far more than a settlor of historical claims, it has morphed into something that makes it a useful tool of the Maori separatists’ anti-democratic and racist agenda.

This was obvious to me when I attended one of these Tribunal hearings. I wrote at the time that we were all being taken for a ride by a tribunal that was questionable in its processes and its determinations. The Maori claimants I saw were genuine enough in their claims, if not a little misguided at times, but my impression at the time was that they were just pawns in an agenda that was not theirs. Just what this agenda was and who was driving it was not obvious to me at the time. It is pretty apparent now.

The Tribunal has become a political force that is pushing for racial privilege for Maori people. The reason this was able to happen is because the law that enabled the Tribunal to be established has also enabled it to become a law unto itself. The Tribunal makes decisions on claims that only Maori people are allowed to make. Each decision becomes a precedent for the next and the next. Its decisions are not challengeable, so each decision, no matter how precarious, stands and justifies the next. Each decision a little bolder than the one before. Its re-interpretation of the Treaty is ongoing, and its recommendations and decisions have crept over time away from what may have once been reasonable (radio airwaves for Maori people not withstanding) to what is now outrageous.

The recommendation for the Crown to make constitutional changes to allow Maori people different rights is beyond the pale. This recommendation is based on its’ ‘finding’ that the Maori people in the north did not cede sovereignty. This ‘finding’ has been ridiculed by historians and any lay person who could be bothered reading through the 600 pages in stage one of the report and 2000 pages in stage two would be gobsmacked at the flaws in its argument, its banality, and its lack of intellectual grunt. The tribunal’s ‘finding’ is even at odds with itself. In this report it states that the Treaty did not give the Crown sovereignty over the Maori people, but in 1988 it said this, and I quote. “The Treaty extinguished Mäori sovereignty and established that of the Crown”.

The issue of whether sovereignty was ceded in 1840 may not seem important to most New Zealanders because Maori people are obviously subjects of our sovereign nation now. They pay taxes and go to jail etc; but believe me it is. The Tribunal’s finding may have been derided by historians, but it is not challengeable unless the Government decides to investigate it outside of the Tribunal. The Tribunal will treat its finding as a precedent and justification for more outrageous decisions in the future. The idea that the Treaty principles need to be updated on the back of this decision has already been floated. The tribunal is sole decider of these principles and so it can make up any new principle it likes and create even more breaches for the Crown to make. It will just create even more grievance for the perpetual victims it caters for to milk and use to get even more privilege.

The Tribunal in its report states that Maori sovereignty was at hapu level. Each hapu was its own sovereign nation with the Maori people subject to the laws of their hapu. The Tribunal, after listening to exclusively Maori claimants, contends that the expectation of the Maori people who signed the Treaty was that the Crown would rule over the settlers only and each hapu would have equal status to the Crown and continue to rule over its own people. Where the settlers and the Maori people’s interests overlapped, as in who would govern over a mixed-race child one presumes, the governorship would be negotiated between the Crown and the hapu on a case-by-case basis. The Tribunal was not able to give an example of any such negotiation happening at scale, which makes its claims even more fanciful.

Any tribunal that could conclude that the expectation of the Maori people was that each hapu would be on equal status with the Queen of England and that the governing of each mixed-race child would be the subject of some case-by-case negotiation is in cloud cuckoo land. Just as it is away with the fairies making recommendations that are inconsistent with the principles upon which a modern liberal multi-ethnic democracy needs to adhere to.

The 1975 Treaty of Waitangi Act which set up the Tribunal is fifty-three years old and is no longer serving the best interests of the people of New Zealand, including the Maori people. Removing it from our legislation is the only option. Outstanding historical claims can be settled by direct negotiation with the Crown and the Treaty of Waitangi itself can be viewed as a treaty that has achieved its purpose and be consigned to history.

The purpose of the Treaty of Waitangi was to enable the settlement of New Zealand and it has achieved that.  This settlement has made New Zealand a country of great wealth.  All Maori people today live a life of prosperity that most of the world’s population cannot relate to, and the Treaty has played a role in that. It should be celebrated for that and acknowledged as having done its job.

If we do not repeal the Treaty of Waitangi Act and get rid of the Waitangi Tribunal and remove all reference to the Treaty from legislation, we will see a continuation of the reinterpretation of the Treaty. The Treaty, once an honourable treaty, has been reinterpreted in to a racist one that assigns different ‘treaty rights’ to people of one race only and drives racial division which will bring about the destruction of this modern liberal democracy that should be so dear to us all.

The belief that one’s race bestows upon one certain rights and privileges that others do not have, is the most vile and evil of beliefs. Yet that belief underpins the Waitangi Tribunal’s recommendation for constitutional change to favour Maori people. The Treaty of Waitangi Act 1975 has enabled such vile and evil beliefs to take hold in the Waitangi Tribunal and repealing it is the only option.

The vision and the grand purpose of the 1975 Treaty of Waitangi Act was for us to get to a point where we can all move forward together as one country with one people. We got to that point a long time ago and the best way to ensure we stay there is to be get rid of what has now become destructive legislation.

Robin Grieve, a tutor, orchardist and retired farmer, is Chairman of Pastural Farming Climate Research HERE.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

You are completely right. This has been the proper course of action all along. The big trouble is that it will be seen as racist by the woke, historically ignorant majority.

DeeM said...

As is the way these days, organisations that set out to help racial minorities and right past wrongs have themselves morphed into overtly racist bodies that despise other races and expect to be paid in perpetuity for imagined never-ending grievances.

The Waitangi Tribunal is now a distasteful aberration that openly encourages racial division and tension. It should be wound up immediately, as should the Maori seats, which are also undemocratic.

Anonymous said...


Crystal clear analysis......

Which politicians have the courage to do this?
(Unless this is Winston's legacy plan?)

Anonymous said...

The 1975 TOW Act created the Waitangi Tribunal, which was set up to hear claims by Maori against the Crown AFTER 1975.
The Tribunal was set up using James Freeman's compiled ENGLISH version of the TOW and not Tiriti o Waitangi, which was the ONLY treaty signed on the 6th February 1840.
The 'English version' gave Maori advantage and privilege over non Maori never intended by those that signed Tiriti o Waitangi.
The Waitangi Tribunal breaches Article 3 of the TOW. It is also taxpayer funded and for the benefit of part-Maori only, which is called APARTHEID.

Robert Arthur said...

Sadly contributons as Robin's now never make the msm. After the landslide election allegiances might change. We might even start to see objective comment on maori goings on. A few years ago here or on BFD someone published an account of a WT hearing. It had been a travesty. The Tribunal led the path. I think it was Michael Basset who commented that the procedure had deteriorated grossly since his day. It is ludicrous that aged maori giving oral presentations are treated as expert witness'. Many would be more or less my age and my retelling of yarns from my grandparents would be very unreliable. Are all proceedings recorded? And available ongoing? does anyone monitor and report to some independent govt department? obviously the msm do not send along observers. (As they need to have te reo fluency anyone objective would be near impossible)

Hazel Modisett said...

Why not cut to the chase ?
We all know that these problems stem directly from UNDRIP, a LEGALLY NON BINDING resolution foisted upon us by the UN in 2007. We should have figured out by now that our so called "leaders" lack the intestinal fortitude to stand against the UN & we should be demanding answers. Why are we allowing our politicians to dictate the terms & conditions of our lives, regulate our inalienable rights away & tax us for the privilege, based on dictats from un elected NGOs like the UN (& all its umbrella agencies like WHO, IMF etc), the WEF, G7, G20 etc & a host of multi national corporations that are laughing all the way to the bank ? All we hear about is the division between the looney Left & the redneck Right, but what about the silent majority that just want to be left alone to live their lives with freedom & dignity ? In my humble opinion the struggle is much simpler than the "Divide & Conquer" scenario being played out by the agencies previously mentioned & is as old as time itself. The struggle has always been between the Collectivists that are quite happy to abdicate freedom & responsibility for the promise of safety (Nanny Statists) & Individualists that do not need & in fact resent centralised govt & want to be left alone to conduct their own lives within the Rule of Common Law.
New Zealand used to be proud of the fact that we were a nation of staunch individualists striving for a common goal, but I fear we have traded our #8 wire for handcuffs & an implanted Digital ID. We need to remind our political & bureaucratic classes who pays their exorbitant wage & demand they address OUR needs & not those of an elitist minority before we are all living out the plot to Hunger Games & 1984, but that would take courage & conviction & I see very little of that...

Peter Young said...

Yes, well said Robin, and it's dismantling is long overdue.

While I agree with your sentiments Hazel, I'm not so sure that UNDRIP is the real problem. After all, Article 46.1 & 46.3 of that declaration state:

"1. Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, people, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act contrary to the Charter of the United Nations or construed as authorizing or encouraging any action which would dismember or impair, totally or in part, the territorial integrity or political unity of sovereign and independent States." And,

"3. The provisions set forth in this Declaration shall be interpreted in accordance with the principles of justice, democracy, respect for human rights, equality, non-discrimination, good governance and good faith."

The WT, the likes of He Puapua and Claire Charters utterances, and this current Government's interpretation of the ToW, is a country mile away from fulfilling those directives and principles.

It's time the Waitangi Tribunal and this Government were gone, and the Treaty (having served its purpose) consigned to history.




Anonymous said...

I understand Luxon has stated that he wants to see the Waitangi Tribunal wound up by 2030. If this is so, then his feet must be held to the fire - both in the coming weeks and and after the election!

mudbayripper said...

When one examines the behavior of pre treaty Maori.
The concept of land ownership was determined by conquest. That's what the tribes understood. If that system carried on into the 20th and the 21st century there wouldn't be a snowballs chance in hell that compensation would be paid out from one tribe to another for past grievances.
Why then is it ok for modern day New Zealand taxpayers to be liable for any reparations.
I believe the Waitangi tribunal has been a fraudulent organization from the beginning, funneling government money through to clandestine, private Maori trust accounts in preparation for the attack that is being brought against our democracy as l write.
All part of the master plan That's been in the making for decades.


Hazel Modisett said...

Peter Young
The problem is the UNs lax interpretation of "human rights". We are increasingly being led to believe that our rights are in fact privileges that are granted to us by external forces which can be removed for non compliance with any one of the ridiculous agendas being forced on us & not the inalienable rights that are our birth right. In addition, we have all clearly seen that the UNs "recommendations" are in fact mandates & that there are severe life altering ramifications for non compliance. Co Governance, Climate Change mandates, LGBT, ESG & every other plague besetting us comes directly from the UN & their masters in the WEF, G7, G20, IMF, BIS, Club of Rome et al & are traced directly to UNDRIP, Agenda 21/2030. Digital IDs & CBDCs will be the final nail in our coffins...

Anonymous said...

Getting rid of the TOW merrygo round will never happen. To Maori why kill the goose that keeps laying golden eggs, to the hundreds of fat rich lawyers and all those overpaid "researchers " who keep putting new interpretations on the treaty.
The only way to stop this slow corrupt slide down the gurgler is for a new radical leader to emerge with the guts to put an end to all this nonsense along with our radical left / woke takeover of law , health and education.
Cannot imagine that ever happening though, it would almost have to be a revolution to push the reset button and save this country.