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Saturday, April 26, 2025

Peter Dunne: Parliamentary practice at stake


A tense and intriguing political chess game is being played out in Parliament's Privileges Committee at present. It is a game none of those involved can afford to lose, yet inevitably someone will.

On the face of it, the issue at hand is whether the spontaneous haka performed by three Te Pati Māori MPs during the vote on the First Reading of the Treaty Principles Bill last year was a breach of what is quaintly referred to as Parliamentary Privilege.

The concept of Parliamentary Privilege dates back hundreds of years and devolves from the procedures of Britain’s House of Commons devised to enable Members to speak freely in Parliament without fear of legal consequences or loss of freedoms (or their heads at that time). Anyone who inhibits in any way Members of Parliament from freely expressing their opinions in Parliament or going about their normal Parliamentary business is in breach of Parliamentary Privilege and is therefore subject to the judgement of the Privileges Committee – effectively Parliament’s court – for their actions.

In this instance, the allegation before the Committee is that by performing a haka while the vote was being taken on the Treaty Principles Bill, the Te Pati Māori MPs were disrupting the free expression of Parliament’s views on the Bill at that time and were therefore breaching Privilege.

However, the issue now runs more deeply than that. Te Pati Māori’s ill-informed dismissal of what it calls Parliament’s “silly little rules” about Privilege, potentially poses an even greater challenge to the system. They say their actions highlight Parliament’s lack of recognition of tikanga, and that simply must change.

On the other hand, Parliament’s Speaker Gerry Brownlee in a somewhat rare and unusual intervention on a matter still under consideration by the Privileges Committee has described Te Pati Māori’s position as “complete nonsense.” He says a distinction must be drawn between Parliament’s rules and procedures and upholding tikanga.

Brownlee says separate work is already underway through the cross-party Standing Orders Committee to see how tikanga can be more fully integrated into Parliament’s rules, with a report due before the end of this term of Parliament. For that reason, he dismisses Te Pati Māori’s haka actions as “grandstanding”.

But Te Pati Māori rejects the notion that the broader work around tikanga should be treated separately from the haka protest. According to co-leader Debbie Ngarewa-Packer the question of tikanga was central to the three MPs’ decision to perform the haka. Therefore, she argues, they must stand up to the Privileges Committee, which she fears wants to “criminalise the haka and criminalise our tikanga” by finding against them.

For its part, the Privileges Committee will want to steer a careful course. The Committee is made up of senior MPs from all parties and is chaired by the Attorney-General Judith Collins who is also a KC. Its focus will be on whether the three MPs’ actions breached Parliamentary Privilege, and if it finds so, what sanctions should be imposed on them. The committee is unlikely to delve too deeply into the wider question of tikanga, leaving that to the Standing Orders committee work already underway.

Should the committee conclude the three MPs have breached Privilege, the delicate issue will be what sanction it recommends Parliament should impose. For the sake of Parliament’s integrity and credibility any penalty should be significant – it cannot look like a slap with a wet bus ticket. However, at the same time, it cannot be unreasonable, which would simply inflame the current situation further and embolden Te Pati Māori’s line that it is the victim of a repressive, racist system. In short, Collins and her committee are going to have to apply a judgment of Solomon.

What is at stake here is the credibility of the body of Parliamentary practice and the protections of Privilege built up over hundreds of years. Therefore, the Privileges Committee cannot act in a way that could be interpreted as arbitrarily weakening that long-standing strong tradition for contemporary political convenience. Should it do so, the institution of Parliament will be the loser.

Ironically, the situation is a little easier for Te Pati Māori. An adverse finding from the Privileges Committee would certainly be a blow to the Party’s credibility to work within the system (in the same way as is its ongoing failure to provide proper accounts to the Electoral Commission in breach of the law). At the same time, however, it would confirm Te Pati Māori’s narrative that the whole system is geared against them, and that in Ngarewa-Packer’s words “This is the cost of standing up. We’ve had this before, and, you know, we just have to pay it again.”

In the end, the issue is less about the Treaty Principles Bill haka, which is sideshow puffery, than it is about achieving a reasonable balance between Parliament’s historical traditions and contemporary tikanga. That will only be achieved through constructive engagement by all sides, not more of the game-playing seen so far.

Peter Dunne, a retired Member of Parliament and Cabinet Minister, who represented Labour and United Future for over 30 years, blogs here: honpfd.blogspot.com - Where this article was sourced.

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

Is there any reason tikanga can be applicable on marae, but not in Parliament, when that institution is for all NZers of any creed?

Anonymous said...

Now please read John Robertson’s contribution of the day. Peter, you appear to be tripping into the well of appeasement. Enough already! TPM were out of line, and if the promises made at the switch to MMP had been kept then it’s unlikely we’d even be in this crappy racially divided position we all now live in.
Btw - weren’t you in parliament around that time?

Janine said...

Firstly, was the haka spontaneous or pre-planned? I would say the latter as the Maori Party were already fired up by the TPB. Secondly, what was actually wrong with the three principles of the bill anyway? This is indeed a mystery to many. Thirdly, what if the majority of New Zealanders don't believe in Tikanga? After all, parliamentarians take an oath to represent all New Zealanders, to the best of their ability. The concept ofTikanga can't just suddenly appear(as it has done) without some input from the citizens surely?
Tikanga is a pretty new concept to those who are not part-Maori.

Allen Heath said...

Around 10 000 years ago the proto-European ancestors of many of us living now in New Zealand slowly climbed out of the Stone-age; that period of ignorance and fear and slowly dawning understanding of the world around them. Explanations of physical phenomena and the biota were initially myth rather than fact-based; imaginations ran wild, but eventually humans opened their eyes and brains and gained a more rational hold of the notion of life and the planet, and our place on it as a species. I do not want to return to that intellectual fog, but it would seem that the micro-maori descendants of some of the first immigrants to this country want to remain in an atavistic wonderland, where rational thought and science do not exist. Fair enough, but don't try and drag the rest of us along with you and your nonsensical beliefs. Creep back to your stink and smoke and fear of monsters and fairies, and stop pretending you fit into the 21st century. We don't need the anchor of your beliefs holding back our evolution as a society.

Anonymous said...

As for the Tikanga piece by John Robertson above, on this we need a hard reset. Not soft conversations as proposed by Peter. Not by tiptoeing around but by dealing with the issue in a way that stops the game of whack-a-mole. The New Zealand version of the wisdom of Solomon will indeed be pivotal for the future of this Country.

anonymous said...

All this is playing out without ever recording the public's wishes concerning democracy via a binding referendum. Instead the MPs - mainly clowns, cowards and fellow travellers - are to decide.
If NZs do not protest, they will get what they deserve - and it will not be pleasant.

Basil Walker said...

Tikanga as I presented to the High Court closing in the Ruapuke Island, Sea Bed and Foreshore High Court hearing last month.
(I acknowledge that I had been assisted by reading and interpreting others work into my Court submissions).

I oppose the inclusion of Tikanga by judicial activism in defiance of Parliamentary law.
1) Tikanga has no meaning or ability to qualify as law because every tribe , iwi, hapu has a different interpretation of Tikanga.
2)Tikanga as a custom has no certainty, means everything , means anything and without clarity to anybody.
3) Tikanga is akin to introducing a new type of legal interpretation similar to introducing sharia law which would be quite improper in this MACA application even for a minority of the nation.
4) Tikanga cannot be accepted as law because law has to be certain, consistent, reasonable and not repugnant to justice and morality.
5) Tikanga is a belief akin to spirituality, religion,and disinformation and will undermine the confidence in the law that parliament makes and the judiciary should adhere to parliamentary law .
6) This MACA application must not rely on Tikanga nd the suggestion that Tikanga is law, when it patently cannot be law.

I await the judgement from the High Court.

Anonymous said...

I would want to be the baby as in NZ it will surely be cut in half! That Co-governance for you 50:50 - with a veto of course.

Anonymous said...

If you give into them, that will be that. They will then get the message that they can do what ever they want, with absolutely no consequences. Why is it, maori are the only race in this country, that dont get punished for breaking rules?. If you let them away with this, you may as well just hand parliament over to them. Thats how bad this country has got. They show absolutely NO respect for parliament, but the first to complain if they dont get respect. Time to stand up to them and their activists followers. They are not politicians, they are activists.

Anonymous said...

The 3 maori party mp's broke the current rules of Parliament when they got out of their seats to perform a haka. They signed up to the current rules when they were sworn in as mp's. Their actions have consequences, so suck it up or get out.

Don said...

Three cheers for A. Heath whose abstract on Tikanga deserves national exposure. Tikanga is yet another primitive concept which does not warrant any consideration. Pre-European Maori were brilliant in the way they adapted to cultural changes that condensed many centuries of evolution into a few short years. What has happened to those professing to be Maori today that they want to revert to the Stone Age ideas of one strand of their forebears and abandon modern practices developed by their non-Maori ancestors?

Anonymous said...

If Goldsmith had gotten his bl**dy finger out and stopped vacillating on the repeal of s58, you could have been spared the need to state the above patently obvious truth. However, the Minister is an abject failure taking our tax dollars in remuneration, spending it like lolly monies on settlements and clearly doing Finlayson's bidding. Utterly disgusted with National, they are selling us up the river.

Anonymous said...

Yes, Mr Goldsmith is doing Finlaysons bidding, the same as our current PM is following John Keys advice. Huge mistake