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Saturday, October 11, 2025

Mike’s Minute: Winston Peters isn't wrong, just late


I argued it because I thought it was the right thing to do.

Winston Peters entered the Fonterra brands sale debate yesterday, I suspect because he thinks there are points to be scored.

Not because he is wrong, because he isn't, but if you really cared about the sale that Fonterra has been involved with for some period of time, you might have stumped up a bit earlier.

In a way it's none of our business, neither mine nor Peters’. We aren't farmers and we don’t have a vote.

The people who do have a vote are in that process as we speak.

My guess is it will romp home and each farmer on average will be several hundred thousand dollars better off.

But there is also, as it's always been, the Fonterra social licence. Although the average punter doesn’t own them, or have a say, they are so big that their role in the New Zealand economy is outsized to the point that what they do has national implications.

I have always argued that their argument for sale is wrong.

There is, and never has been, any reason they can't and don’t run their brands successfully. They say it's not their core business.

Isn't it?

Milk turns into cheese and ice cream. Cheese and ice cream are the brands they are selling.

The French company, also in the same business as Fonterra, doesn’t seem to see it that way either, otherwise they wouldn’t be stumping up over $4 billion for it.

There is an agreement, and this is Peters' main point, that the new owner uses Fonterra products. But, says Peters, how long for, and when the clock stops, which it will, our milk will be in just another in a long line of milk jugs.

Peters tosses in a bit of conspiracy about Fonterra executives and bonuses. But that’s the politics of it all.

But then that’s always been the Peters way, hasn’t it?

At its core he makes sense. He values New Zealand and New Zealand products, so his view is consistent. But then there is always a little conspiratorial spice for the headlines.

If this sale was to be debated properly, far less halted, he needed to be front and centre ages ago.

So overall, the Peters' foray – good point, just too late.

Mike Hosking is a New Zealand television and radio broadcaster. He currently hosts The Mike Hosking Breakfast show on NewstalkZB on weekday mornings - where this article was sourced.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Which brings us nicely along to Nicola Ardern... Oops Willis.

Willis is proposing to sell $1b chorus to pay back her $181b debt pile, whilst she runs an annual $12b deficit.

Peter's should turn his corruption radar towards Willis' multi billion dollar taxpayer gifts to her dad's mates and Brooke VVs (to date) disastrous inquiry into the $74.4b of vanished taxpayer funds

Although to be fair VVs covid inquiry debacle could be caused purely by low iq ineptitude.

Luxon doesn't have that excuse. So come on Chris isn't it time we got an honest and clever finance minister, and a genuine covid inquiry, before you suffer the ignamy of a one-term prime minister, leaving kiwis lives in tatters.

Anonymous said...

So, Mike Hoskings is into having a NZ own Company, sell off part of its enterprise to an overseas company.
I join Winston - why - we are going to lose control of a NZ dairy Business, but we are not told what end benefits NZ will get.
If the sale goes ahead, then we can "safely" claim we 'own nothing'.
You only have to go back to the Closer Economic Relationship Trade agreement with Australia to see what happened to NZ.
What has been "a catch cry " for many past years, where we will as a Country develop business, products then have that business sold to an overseas buyer.
That list is long. And when that business starts to have financial issues, then the "owners" then close it down, the ramifications from that is, sadly, a disaster for NZ.
I would pick, Wattie's, being in that domain, our peaches are no longer suitable, they will come from overseas, what fruit or vegetable will be next? Oh and Wattie's have "declared" they have
a financial issue - I wonder if Fonterra have a similar one, but are "not telling anyone" other than Nicola Willis?
Hence the sale of Mainland Foods.
Oh and Mike, yes "a little to late" - but "joe Blogs, Citizen of NZ"
has not way of contesting this sale they would face an entrenched Chair of Board, Board Members, Company CEO who will not listen to any entreaty from us - "they don't mind, we don't matter".

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:45 - I think you will find there’s nothing wrong with Brooke Van Velden’s IQ. She’s intelligent and well educated. Perhaps she’s just not doing what you would like her to do? Happens approx half the time in NZ these days - seems whatever the pollies do close to half of us don’t like it. Such is life.

Anonymous said...

Anon 1009. What most of us want is an explanation:
- why the nz government ignored medsafes refusal to approve the Pfizer jab,
- why the nz government ignored the productivity commissions analysis of expensive and ineffective lock downs,
- why the nz government ignored nzs pandemic plan, a similar plan was employed so effectively by Sweden.
- why nz had the most expensive covid response in the oecd after it was known covid was just a bad flu,,
- where taxpayers $74.4b covid money went.

Allowing the architects of nzs covid tax money laundering scheme to avoid facing public questioning, making nonsensical statents like it's outside the terms of reference she is responsible for, and stating the covid inquiry shouldn't find blame.... are clues the covid inquiry minister is no genius!

Basil Walker said...

Mikes Minute is quite correct when we are not shareholders we have no vote , however greater than the vote is the future for the pastoral products NZ land creates . For the red meat farmers , especially lamb the Alliance sellout to an Irish conglomerate , Dawn Meats has offered less than the Alliance debt for virtual full control by 60% of Alliance. Nowhere is there a plan for the future of Alliance as a Company being shared with NZ Inc suppliers , workers , support business and the vote is very imminent. The lambs are born and growing as are the cattle and deer . Farmers may be looking for a place to be process their stock if they lose control . NZ should wake up and support farmers and middle finger to greedy banks demanding the Alliance overdraft repayment .

Anonymous said...

To Basil Walker (@11:54AM) - I am the Anon, Author of Opine (@8:43AM) and your comment re Meat Industry, sorry I missed, that, but you are right. Again NZ produces a primary product, that is then sold overseas for the $ gain of the Foreign Buyer.
I wonder -
- if the packaging will show "place of origin"?
- if product we produce, is being used by Foreign Co to gain access to EU markets, that are "verboten" to NZ trade access, because of "EU Protection Policies" for EU Nations product?
We buy the land, place a product on it to grow, then have to look at who will "buy" - only to face 'restrictions' because of climate change, use of fertilizers and/or sprays - when those who "insist" on these changes (we need to be organic - tell sheep or beef that) have NO knowledge of how farming and other allied primary producers work - NAH, not interested - only their "self interest, above all else matters".
Oh the issue with Alliance, is a profound problem, that has had longevity, in NZ, with our Meat Works.
Whakatu & Toamoana in Hastings was a classic example of - bad management, financial issues, Union demands and a sudden loss and decline of overseas markets.
Yup, the two groups that faced that disaster - Farmers & employees at both freezing works.
Just like Alliance will face.
Me thinks (again) Wattie's will be next.

Anonymous said...

I don't really care so much about what Fonterra does.
They have been quite successful the last decade at selling dairy to lactose intolerant Asian countries so they must have everyone's best interests at heart, right?
But I am concerned when "half" a bone in leg of lamb costs 45 dollars in the supermarkets.
That's one hell of an expensive traditional Sunday roast.