Minister Stuart Nash does a weekly session with National MP, Mark Mitchell, on the Mike Hosking NewstalkZB show.
This morning, before Hosking had even asked an opening question Nash waded in:
NASH: "Hey Mike I haven't heard you comment on the December figures last year when 19,000 handed in their benefit and got back to work. Was that in one of your commentaries?"
HOSKING: "It was actually Stuart. You shouldn't come on this programme and say 'I haven't heard you' because all that indicates is you're tuned into the wrong radio station. You need to be where the number one radio show is and the audience is Stuart especially now that it's election year and you need some votes.
NASH: "Well when you think there are 19,000 more people in work than were on the benefit in the last quarter that's pretty good news . That shows a great economy and good economic management I would say. Wouldn't you Mike?"
HOSKING: "Well no because my great concern is the massive increase in the people on the benefit. How do you explain that?"
NASH: "It's still a lower percentage than it was when we took over [wrong - see below]."
HOSKING: "But it's still increasing though. There are more an more people on the Jobseeker benefit - there's another 15,000 on the Jobseeker benefit and these are work-ready people. Why aren't they working?"
NASH: "But the economy's growing, we've got record low unemployment. This is the third lowest unemployment in the last ten years.Wages are rising and the economy is booming."
18,818 benefit cancellations for work is not particularly spectacular when compared to the previous December quarters and the trend-line is down.
More importantly there were 55,341 main benefit grants in the Dec 2019 quarter - the highest number since Dec 2015.
As well, in December 2017 - just after Labour took over - 9.8% of the working age population was on a benefit. By December 2019 it had grown to 10.5%.
In respect of the Jobseeker benefit the number grew from 4.2% to 4.9%
An election campaign that is facts-based? Honest, robust, transparent?
Lindsay Mitchell is a welfare commentator who blogs HERE.