Monday, September 16, 2024
Barrie Davis: The Revised Treaty Principles Bill
Labels: Dr Barrie Davis, NZ ACT Party, The Treaty Principles BillThe ACT Party Treaty Principles Bill promising equality for all New Zealanders has been eagerly anticipated by some. It has been suppressed by the National Party and New Zealand first, and vilified in the press which is always a good sign. But then it went terribly wrong and reinstated exclusive race based privileges – or institutionalized racism as I prefer to call it. What can we do to correct the problem?
On 10 October 2022, a year before the 2023 election, Nicole McKee put out a Press Release saying:
“ACT proposes that the next Government pass legislation defining the Principles of the Treaty, in particularly their effect on democratic institutions. Then ask the people to vote on it becoming law.
“It would define the Principles of the Treaty as.
1. The New Zealand Government has the right to govern New Zealand.
2. The New Zealand Government will protect all New Zealanders’ authority over their land and other property
3. All New Zealanders are equal under the law, with the same rights and duties.
“The great promise of New Zealand is that everyone’s equal. For generations people have travelled long distances to give their children a better tomorrow in this little country where everyone gets an equal chance.”
In February 2024, ACT proposed a Bill based on those three principles:
1. That the government has the right to govern for all New Zealanders
2. That the government will honour all New Zealanders in the chieftainship of their land and all their property
3. That all New Zealanders are equal under the law with the same rights and duties
The Bill is part of the coalition agreement between ACT and National, which promised to introduce a Bill based on existing ACT policy and support it to a select committee as soon as practicable.
But Cabinet recently approved a revised Bill which is quite different to the ACT policy given above. Note how the Government still has full power to govern, yet the people’s rights now differ as specified by the Government:
1. Civil Government: The Government of New Zealand has full power to govern, and Parliament has full power to make laws. They do so in the best interests of everyone, and in accordance with the rule of law and the maintenance of a free and democratic society.
2. Rights of Hapū and Iwi Māori: The Crown recognises the rights that hapū and iwi had when they signed the Treaty. The Crown will respect and protect those rights. Those rights differ from the rights everyone has a reasonable expectation to enjoy only when they are specified in legislation, Treaty settlements, or other agreement with the Crown.
3. Right to Equality: Everyone is equal before the law and is entitled to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination. Everyone is entitled to the equal enjoyment of the same fundamental human rights without discrimination.
The problem I have with that is articulated by Janet Wilson (The Post, 14 Sept, here):
Forget any rights the Treaty principles infer; if passed, this would enshrine the Treaty into law. Rather than restricting Treaty rights, which was Seymour’s intent in introducing the bill, it would expand them.
It’s hard to know if, in trying to make concessions to make the bill more appealing the ACT leader lost sight of the political consequences; or, as Politik’s Richard Harman opined this week, that the hapu and iwi clause was the trade-off Seymour bargained with to get a referendum over the line.
But the clause is an open invitation to Treaty lawyers and judges to advocate and decree what rights hapu and iwi had in 1840, then enshrine those protections into law.
Here are a couple of obvious examples:
First example. There is conflict within Principle 2, which says, “2. Rights of Hapū and Iwi Māori: The Crown recognises the rights that hapū and iwi had when they signed the Treaty.” When the Chiefs signed the Treaty, slavery, cannibalism and infanticide were customary practices which continued until the British finally stopped them around 1860, yet the Bill continues; “The Crown will respect and protect those rights.” They contradict that when they then say “Those rights differ from the rights everyone has a reasonable expectation to enjoy only when they are specified in legislation, Treaty settlements, or other agreement with the Crown.” The customary rights the Maoris had when the Chiefs signed the Treaty are not applicable today and should not be ratified by our representative Parliament.
Second example. There is also conflict between Principles 2 and 3. Principle 2 says there will be different rights, “2. Rights of Hapū and Iwi Māori: Those rights differ from the rights everyone has a reasonable expectation to enjoy only when they are specified in legislation, Treaty settlements, or other agreement with the Crown”; and Principle 3 says our rights will be the same, “3. Right to Equality: Everyone is equal before the law and is entitled to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination. Everyone is entitled to the equal enjoyment of the same fundamental human rights without discrimination.”
It’s no use saying, “Oh, what it means is …” What it means is what it says, which is incoherent. The author is talking out of both sides of the mouth in an attempt to appease both sides of the debate. It’s a mess and the Waitangi Tribunal pettifoggers will be all over it. It occurs to me that it is intentionally being left up to the Waitangi Tribunal to figure out what it means, like the Treaty of Waitangi Act 1975, which has been a disaster. We will be out of the frying pan into the fire. Even if it were to go to a referendum it would be foolish to support it. Cabinet has set this up to fail.
I do not now agree with the Bill, the jurists will have a field day as Janet Wilson says. The next Ardernist government will use it to conclude the descent of New Zealand into a Maori ethnostate somewhere between Samoa and South Africa. It seems to me that the revised Bill is a miscreation and there is a risk that it will deliver the opposite of what it was intended to do.
My position is that I want no exclusive rights for Maoris. Why should Maoris get exclusive rights and not Samoans, or Chinese, or Scots? What would be the response if the New Zealand arrangement were applied to the indigenous people of England? I want the Treaty put in an historical context where it belongs which entails that its provisions are removed from legislation.
Whether you agree with me on that or not, I hope you at least agree that if we are going to have a sound debate and make submissions, allowance should be made to include my position.
Yet here is the situation I now find myself in regarding making a submission on the revised Treaty Principles Bill:
If I don’t make a submission that will be taken to mean that I have no interest in the issue which will disincentivize proceeding to a referendum.
If I make a submission and argue against the Bill because of the revisions that will be taken to mean that I do not want the Bill to proceed. That will also disincentivize proceeding to a referendum.
If I make a submission and argue in favour of the revised Bill conditional on it being put back to what it was, that will never happen and my submission will be negated and so a waste of everyone’s time. If I do not make that condition but instead merely point it out as a problem, my submission will be taken to mean that I endorse the revised Bill. I would then have to rely on it not proceeding to a referendum and being passed. But it may just happen that after the first reading the revised Bill could proceed to a referendum. It has occurred to me that David Seymour could be stringing it out until the next election at which time there may an opportunity to include a referendum in his next coalition agreement. But if the revised Bill is passed into legislation, that is not what I want and my submission would have contributed to that.
So my position has been excluded from consideration. If I make a submission, it could only be as an explanation such as that I have given here. But that would be with respect of the revised Bill that is being considered and would not address the problem of exclusive rights for Maoris which is what I understood the initial Bill would address.
At best, I would just be making the point, to which no one will pay any attention, that the revisions of the Bill stymied the debate that the referendum was intended to ratify: It was not a public debate; the Cabinet had the debate for us.
From my position, therefore, the revised Treaty Principles Bill is useless and a waste of everyone’s time.
I think that there are two things we need to do instead:
The first is to remove the Waitangi Tribunal provisions from legislation as proposed by Winston Peters and the Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi Deletion Bill 2006 (see David Farrar, here). The way we the people can do that is to show that the Waitangi Tribunal provisions are fallacious and, as they are based on the reconstructed back-translation of the Treaty into English by Professor Sir Hugh Kawharu, then the first step is to show how Sir Hugh’s translation is mistaken. If we take down Kawharu’s translation of the Treaty, we take down the Waitangi Tribunal and with them the provisions they have had installed in our legislation.
The second thing we need to do is reclaim our sovereignty. Who is Christopher Luxon to tell us we cannot have a referendum? That is worse than Jacinda Ardern telling us we have to have a lockdown and then us doing what we are told. We all know why Prime Minister Luxon does not want a referendum; it’s because he knows we do not want what he is doing. It needs to be brought home that we the people are the source of sovereignty and that our representative Parliament exists to serve us, not the other way around. Certainly we need an authority to implement boundaries, but that authority needs to take their steer from us. We need to look into our constitutional rights and ensure that a referendum is a necessary part of our democracy and that it is our choice to invoke one should we so desire.
Before I proceed, I would very much like your opinion on this in the Comments section.
Barrie Davis is a retired telecommunications engineer, holds a PhD in the psychology of Christian beliefs, and can often be found gnashing his teeth reading The Post outside Floyd’s cafe at Island Bay.
31 comments:
I agree with everything you have said. As soon as I saw the revised version ACT lost my support. I actually found this change very confusing. How did he get it so wrong? What he had before was exactly what we were all asking for. I will be supporting NZFirst from now on. And yes we need solutions for this because now is the time to get it sorted.
A third party referendum is now needed with terms very clearly stated.
That way nobody in the coalition is to blame but the issue is tested by a vote.
Thankyou for articulating the doubts which have arisen with many of us.The Select Committee is going to be a fiasco.
The revision has essentially emasculated the bill and probably its author, Seymour!
Thank you Barrie,
Your points are not lost on me. It must be because I'm also a retired electronic systems engineer. I agree that in it current form that morphed from a cohesive set of three elements that did not contradict one another to an inconsistent set of dangerous contradictions. This is precisely what the Treaty revisionists have achieved with their twisted interpretations/back translations of the Treaty. The second "principle" started as you said from a very clear statement about ALL New Zealanders, through garbage mentioning Chieftain-ship to the messy, inconsistent wording we now see. Your conclusion that this renders the revised Treaty Principles Bill useless and a waste of everyone’s time is wholly accurate. If it makes its way into Law, it will enshrine exclusive rights for Maoris and give us full blown Apartheid.
I agree with your suggestion as to two things we need to do instead. I recently commented in a similar vein to your post on this forum when the revised Bill wording was first revealed. I cannot directly include that info as it makes the comment too long so may pop it in separately. How do you intend proceeding with this? The Cabinet has moved this issue into something akin to a "Yes Minister"scenario with Sir Humphrey pulling us into a "Catch-22"situation and we need to get out of it.
Regards Doug
Given all this confusion, it becomes daily more urgent to hold a referendum on NZ's form of government: democracy or ethnocracy?
Barrie, FYI repeat of other comment content:
"... assuming Cabinet have wreaked this havoc to item 2 in the proposed bill, they deserve severe admonishment. Why? Well simply because they appear to be perpetuating a gross lie. What lie? That Article 2 only applies to iwi/hapu and not ALL New Zealanders. I subscribe to the chronology that Hobson's draft (the Littlewood draft) was translated to the Maori language and so, since the Littlewood draft came to light, some subsequent translations such as the junk Freeman one are rendered redundant. The closest IMHO is that by Sir Apirana Ngata (brilliant man by the way) because he said in his 1922 explanation (penned in Te Reo and accurately translated by MR Jones) that Article 2 "confirms and guarantees to the Chiefs and Tribes and to all the people of New Zealand the full possession of their lands, their homes and all their possessions, ..." He further described the disparity in the then official English version (Freeman?), mainly the erroneous specification of "Forests and Fisheries" but also the clear omission of the "all", because we do count and should not be summarily dismissed as victims of blatant apartheid. I hope I am not alone in wishing for this government to sort all this out. We had our malevolent dictatorship with Ardern and latterly Mahuta pulling the strings. Maybe we need a benevolent dictatorship - only kidding - democracy is the best option - take that from someone who has lived behind the iron curtain and seen what that means first hand.
Maybe it is time for a bit of lateral thinking and root cause analysis? What is the root cause of this unfathomable mess. I'll skip some of the process. It is probably the TOW Act 1975. If so, and because NZ First want to tackle this issue by removing all references to the TOW in legislation where it is not directly appropriate, perhaps the root cause needs to be removed. So, let's look at repealing the TOW Act and all its subsequent amendments. "Solutions" atop "previous solutions" simply spawn/compound into more problems, so why not go to the heart of it and take out the root cause. Pareto had it sussed 80% of the problems can be attributed to 20% of the causes which are therefore deemed the significant few. It seems a no-brainer that ripping out this flawed bit of legislation would rub the fur of a few the wrong way but as the saying goes, you have to crack eggs to make an omelette. Take out that Act so the other ACT and the rest of the sane World would not need to worry about Principles of the Treaty.
I also agree with the full content of the article and think it might be useful to storm the offices of the Herald, Post, TVNZ and RNZ and install a balanced journalism staff. Otherwise, opinions and analysis as expressed by Dr Davis are lost to all but those of us who agree but, except through the ballot box, can have little influence on the status quo, or am I being too cautious? One last thing; the names Iwi and Hapu are actually abbreviations for 'I want it" and "Hurry and pay us".
The public have to demand a referendum and insist Luxon pulls his head in as he is wrong to deny democracy. OR Collectively get our heads together and have a Public Initiated Referendum . Each electorate is responsible for their share of 10% of the required voters to force the Public Initiated Referendum.
Invite Hon David Seymour to word the referndun appropriately and legally then use our electoral system and databases to invite signatures .
It seems to me that the National-Act Coalition Agreement has been breached. The Agreement was: "Introduce a Treaty Principles Bill based on existing ACT policy and support it to a Select Committee as soon as practicable." The Bill going to Select Committee is not based on "existing Act policy as stated by Nicola McKee. Did Act agree to this change to the agreement, if so, how?
Rodney Hide
The 1975 TOW Act was an enactment based on a fraud, and as such, fraud vitiates everything.
A fraudulent document, that being a Freeman’s overseas bound ‘royal style version’ which had been ruined by a weak Hobson signature, was later used by Maunsell to collect an overflow of Waikato chief’s signatures, was pinned/waxed to a printed Maori language sheet and called “Maunsell’s make do treaty”, was later separated from the printed Maori language sheet and held up as the “English language treaty as signed”.
What’s more, they lied and said it was an accurate translation of the original Maori language treaty.
Hobson never authorised an official English language version of the treaty, and we know they lied about the translation because of the official 1869 back translation of the Maori language treaty asked for and done by Mr T E Young of the Native affairs department.
We the people have enough evidence to demand that ALL Acts and Statutes which give explicit recognition to the TOW be removed from legislation, PERIOD.
ACT's original Treaty Principles Bill was succinct, written in plain, easy to understand english, which New Zealander's were able to make an informed decision on. The addition re iwi and hapu has muddied the waters and will not get the level of support that the original proposed bill got, which is a pity as it now has no chance of proceeding to a meaningful debate.
ACT's bill will fail. The Coalition Agreement guarantees that. So it's really of no particular consequence what it says. The only certainty is that the words "Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi" will continue to be legally undefined and therefore at the mercy of any passing activist who needs to manufacture a cause. However, on the bright side, once the Bill fails, Parliament can move rapidly to implement New Zealand First's policy enshrined in the same Coalition Agreement, and repeal all references to the Principles in existing legislation while at the same time bringing the Tribunal to heel.
I agree with Rodney's observation.
I do not understand why it went before Cabinet. It was ACT's bill and it should have gone through the normal process to Select Committee.
This is clearly an undermining of the intention of ACT's bill by National. Luxon said on radio last week, in answer to a question from the public ( who identified himself as a National Party member ) that public do not want a referendum. If he has evidence of that, such as poll results he should have added that to his comment. He didn't so he is obviously not telling the truth.
I think it is time someone in the Caucus started "doing the numbers" because I find it hard to believe all National MPs would agree with this undermining of Seymour's Bill ---if I'm wrong then NZ is in more trouble than I thought.
Rodney , with respect , whether the Coalition agreement is breached or not, argument with Luxon will achieve little . To support ACT and David Seymour AND NEW ZEALAND a Citizens Initiated Referendum is required to have the correct wording and democracy. 10 % of the voting population is 365,000 signatures , divided by 65 electorates is 5,600 signatures per electorate or 72 including the maori seats is 5069 signatures . , 100 volunteers are required to collate 500 plus signatures each or only 250 households . I will coordinate Southland. , Please stand up and be proactive .
QUITE CLEARLY, ARTICLE 2 CONFLICTS WITH ARTICLE 1 AND 3
NOTE: The sneaky inclusion in 3 of “the same fundamental human rights”
which are the basic rights of existence, (the safety of one’s life, sustenance and shelter etc,)
and doesn’t cover even rights as a citizen or ‘SPECIAL EXTRA RIGHTS’,
such as the right to fish in a Marine Reserve, have a vote on a Council while not elected, impose your religion or Culture on others etc etc.
It should be “ALL HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS OF CITIZENSHIP” or “ALL CITIZENS HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES”
I SUSPECT A DELIBERATE CAREFUL REWRITE IN ORDER TO INSERT WRIGGLE POTENTIAL FOR ACTIVIST JUDGES TO EXPLOIT
THE NEW VERSION TREATY PRINCIPLES IS NOW NOT WORTH THE PAPER IT MAY EVENTUALLY BE WRITTEN ON
YES!!!! This is the plan!! Where do I sign? Question 1....Do we wish to live under Co-Governance? #2....Are there principles in the treaty? #3....New modern constitution that overrides the treaty. #4....Abolish the tribunal.
Re: Jack at 11 am: Until I lived in Germany for while, I had never realised that English is a language that becomes more obscure in meaning the more words one adds to try and elucidate something. German is by comparison quite precise and literal. Te Reo goes the other way entirely and has proven to be so malleable and ductile that black can mean white with a bit of applied twisting. I have to agree that the original Oct '22 Press Release by Nicole McKee was absolutely clear and concise. The subsequent aberrations to the wording have screwed it completely.
Erudite as is this missive, and very well supported by denizens of the same forest, the reality is, the masses don't read more than than 500 words and absorb less, if the message is too long.
KISS Keep SImple Stupid.
1 Rodney Hide - start another minor party hard core conservative - ruralrump stuff - and capture the anti ACT vote which went NZ First, when NZ First evaporates after Sir Winston takes up residence as Ambassador USA
2 Policy philosophy (a) equal before the law irrespective race creed colour religion beliefs (b) protection private property
being as it is the cornerstone of private sector commercial
enterprise 3 Enforce the unfettered power of our sovereign parliament predicated as it may be on NZs uncodified constitution i.e. parliament is supreme and cannot be subjugated to existing statute law nor court interpretations.
Barrie, you seem to base your story on what the Herald reported, which was that Article 2 said: "Rights of Hapū and Iwi Māori: The Crown recognises the rights that hapū and iwi had when they signed the Treaty. The Crown will respect and protect those rights. Those rights differ from the rights everyone has a reasonable expectation to enjoy only when they are specified in legislation, Treaty settlements, or other agreements with the Crown." I read that too, with dismay. But then I saw Article 2 on a current ACT flyer which says "The New Zealand Government
recognises and will protect the
rights that hapū and iwi had when
they signed the Treaty as it does
for all New Zealanders." It's difficult to see why Seymour would misrepresent his own bill to his disadvantage. If this is misinformation from the Herald, it would not be the first time the Herald has misreported him. Barrie, why not contact Seymour and ask him.
Hello Mike Butler,
Thank you for your comment.
You quote an ACT flyer as saying:
"The New Zealand Government recognises and will protect the rights that hapū and iwi had when they signed the Treaty as it does for all New Zealanders."
The content in my above article is a cut and paste from the following Beehive Release:
Hon David Seymour: “Next steps agreed for Treaty Principles Bill,” 11 September 2024, here
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/next-steps-agreed-treaty-principles-bill
“Cabinet has agreed for the following principles to be included in the Bill: …
“2. Rights of Hapū and Iwi Māori: The Crown recognises the rights that hapū and iwi had when they signed the Treaty. The Crown will respect and protect those rights. Those rights differ from the rights everyone has a reasonable expectation to enjoy only when they are specified in legislation, Treaty settlements, or other agreement with the Crown.”
I don’t know what is going on here either. I’m not confident to ask David Seymour without first seeing the Flyer. You might like to ask him yourself.
Barrie Davis
2. Rights of Hapū and Iwi Māori: The Crown recognises the rights that hapū and iwi had when they signed the Treaty. The Crown will respect and protect those rights. Those rights differ from the rights everyone has a reasonable expectation to enjoy only when they are specified in legislation, Treaty settlements, or other agreement with the Crown.
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/next-steps-agreed-treaty-principles-bill
Yes, I concur with what you've said Barrie and most of the comments here, but that first action might be a larger hurdle than you think. Winston has been remarkably quiet of late and is he now prepared to push the same line again and, if so, I don’t see the timing on that being anytime soon?
As for Kawharu's translation, why did they get that when they had Judge T E Young's more faithful translation of nearly a century and a quarter earlier and which only further collaborates the more recently found Busby (Littlewood) draft? The ToW Act was fallacious on so many counts and should rightly be repealed, but that’s not even on the radar as far as I’m aware?
As for the other, a citizen’s invoked referendum. I’m a starter for that, but there’s far too much ignorance out there at present and I’m inclined to think we need to wait until the Bill’s release to see what level of public discussion takes place and make a call early in the New Year on the best path forward. But certainly no harm in thinking about and raising awareness of it meantime.
And in terms of those assisting with the cause, there has to be many in retirement homes around the country that would only be too happy to get active and out and about protecting the future of the country for their descendants.
Whatever the theme the maiden sang, once upon a time
Real time. The unfettered power of our sovereign parliament predicated as it may be on NZs uncodified constitution, NZ parliament is supreme and cannot be subjugated to existing statute law nor court interpretation.
Principle 2 : maybe ACT accepted the very different "Cabinet version" :
a) to ensure that wide debate will actually take place until May 2025; and
b) because he understood this version was really intended to force ACT to abandon the Bill AND/OR to leave the Coalition.
The Cabinet version clearly permits special rights/status for Maori. This is the basic premise of He Puapua.
If there is strong support for the Bill - with this version of Principle 2 - at the Select Committee stage, then National has every reason to do a U-turn and support the Bill into law. Then, the legal framework for He Puapua would already exist - a major step forward and sure to get the Maori vote.
Has the original ACT text - simple and clear - been hijacked?
Barrie, you are quite correct. The ACT flyer differs from the Cabinet announcement.
I litened intently to David Seymour with Sean Plunkett on "The Platform" . Hon David Seymour said ' Cabinet discussed and agreed to Basic Policy settings. and The timing of getting drafting of the Bill. Introducing to parliament . Sending to Select Committee .Back to parliament .
Separately and in my opinion which cancels all the concern about the wording of clause 2 .
The Parliamentary Counsel office will do the actual Policy formation legislative drafting and wording and David himself has NOT seen the actual wording yet.
Again in my opinion we do have to wait and unfortunately bat off the Waitangi Tribunal left wing media and nay sayers .
Excellent article, Barry.
You have highlighted the clear problem with this bill - the proposed wording contains a (racist) self-contradictory ambiguity that will of course be seized upon by the Tribunal and all the activist lawyers and judges to further split our nation.
Welcome to New Zimbabwe !!
I agree totally with you Barry
Peter says there has to be many in retirement homes that would be happy to get active about protecting the future of the country for their descendants.
Better leave it to the descendents themselves who have their lives ahead of them rather than those in God's waiting room Who won't be around to see the result of their decisions
All good points. Along with calling out Kawharu's purposeful mistranslations I wonder if we need to educate people about what the 3 articles of the treaty actually say as described in the final Littlewood draft in English? I still don't see many/any of the current politicians talking about the articles at all.
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