I’ve always been rather uneasy about heads of government departments doing interviews, on anything other than operational/internal matters for which they have specific personal responsibility. When they get onto policy it is never quite clear whether they are expressing their own views or championing those of the minister, and even if the former they are inevitably somewhat constrained by the views and tolerances of the minister. The primary responsibility, after all, of heads of policy agencies is provision of free and frank policy advice to the minister.
Rennie does a bit of self-promotion, claiming that he is the sort of “change agent” the Minister of Finance has asserted that she wanted, and that he is at his best reforming things. I guess time will tell on the former claim – although count me sceptical – but his previous years in senior positions (Deputy Secretary at Treasury, State Services Commissioner) weren’t exactly known for being a reforming era, and it wasn’t obvious that he was an exception to that. And he was responsible for the appointment and reappointment of Gabs Makhlouf, who took Treasury in more of self-indulgent direction than one driving forward hardnosed and rigorous policy advice.
He claims to be keen on The Treasury being more upfront and public about its view on possible reforms. I’m not sure that’s wise – hardly likely to strengthen effectiveness with the Minister when, as is inevitable at times, those views are very much at odds with those of the government – but I guess that is their call. Lets see, for example, what they come up with in the Long-term Insights Briefing they are required to produce next year. In any case, Rennie – creature of the 80s/90s Treasury – claims to be keen on more means-testing. Views will differ of course, but it has its own problems (especially once done across multiple programmes) and the last attempt to apply it to retirement income provisions did not end well.
He also touched on tax. There is some ambiguity about that second para, but I take it that he is advocating taxing capital income at a lower rate than labour income. If so, he’d have my full support, but championing it in public is going to buy quite a fight – even with a notionally centre-right government that has just increased business taxation and shows no inclination at all to do anything about one of the highest company tax rates in the OECD.
He claims to be keen on The Treasury being more upfront and public about its view on possible reforms. I’m not sure that’s wise – hardly likely to strengthen effectiveness with the Minister when, as is inevitable at times, those views are very much at odds with those of the government – but I guess that is their call. Lets see, for example, what they come up with in the Long-term Insights Briefing they are required to produce next year. In any case, Rennie – creature of the 80s/90s Treasury – claims to be keen on more means-testing. Views will differ of course, but it has its own problems (especially once done across multiple programmes) and the last attempt to apply it to retirement income provisions did not end well.
He also touched on tax. There is some ambiguity about that second para, but I take it that he is advocating taxing capital income at a lower rate than labour income. If so, he’d have my full support, but championing it in public is going to buy quite a fight – even with a notionally centre-right government that has just increased business taxation and shows no inclination at all to do anything about one of the highest company tax rates in the OECD.
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But the real reason for this post – and the reason why I phrased the title of this post as I did – is Rennie’s apparent complacency on fiscal policy: it could have been channelling Willis. There is, we are told, no hurry to close the structural fiscal deficit
“That’s why I’ve been very clear that fiscal consolidation will need to happen over a number of years.”
We didn’t get into a structural deficit “over a number of years” (but quickly), we’ve now been running one for more than a few years, nothing done this year reduced the deficit, and on the government’s own projections any return to fiscal balance is still several years away. And this is in a country that was running surpluses less than five years ago (the first – and mostly necessary – Covid splurge was March 2020). Core Crown operational spending this year (24/25) is almost six percentage points of GDP higher than it was in the last full pre-Covid year (18/19).
Now, it is certainly true that not all reforms can be done overnight, but that doesn’t mean that fiscal adjustment couldn’t – and shouldn’t – be done a great deal faster than either Robertson or Willis have been willing to contemplate. And there is not a sign of recognition from Rennie that the date for the return to fiscal balance has been pushed out again and again – it isn’t as if successive governments are making steady progress on a well-understood and stable forward track.
There seems to much the same sort of elite resignation around productivity issues and failures. He seems willing to acknowledge that it is a significant issue, but with no sense of urgency, and no sense of just how deep-rooted the problems have become – weak productivity growth isn’t just some phenomenon of the last few years, but something that now dates back 70+ years in New Zealand, with no sustained period since when New Zealand has made any progress in closing the gaps.
Rennie’s final comments are about comparisons with 1990/91
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Again, it feels more as though he is channelling his Minister, who desperately does not want to be compared with Ruth Richardson.
A fair amount of the debate around 1990/91 is more about mythology than hard facts. Reasonable people might differ about the pros and cons of welfare benefit cuts then (as they might about the ill-judged increases in real benefit rates under the last Labour government), but….
Here is total Crown primary (ie ex interest) spending in the fiscal years through that
period
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Government spending was not slashed and burned.
And what of that story of 15 years of failed fiscal adjustment. Here, from Treasury’s own data, is the primary balance from that era
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Very considerable progress had in fact been made in the previous few years, with large primary surpluses having been achieved (nominal interest rates at the time were very high, but much of those interest rates were simply compensation for inflation, not an additional real burden). Now, it is certainly true that in the dying days of the 1984-90 government fiscal discipline weakened – primary surpluses were smaller – but there were primary surpluses throughout.
It is also true that at the end of 1990, there had been the second (and more severe) BNZ failure/bailout, unemployment was rising, and another recession was almost upon us. There were genuine fiscal surprises for the incoming government – and the ratings agencies – but the basic position, while well short of ideal, was not dire. And if net debt – at about 50 per cent of GDP – was higher than it should have been (and higher than today), it was pretty moderate by the standards of indebted OECD countries today. And, since Rennie rightly notes ageing population pressures on spending now and in the years to come, back in 1990, not only had the outgoing Labour government already put in place a plan to raise (very gradually) the eligibility age for the state pension, but the demographics going into the next 10-15 years were particularly favourable, since the birth rates 60 or so years earlier had been so temporarily low.
Instead now we have deficits well into the future, no serious evidence (yet) of a government with a willingness to make hard adjustments, and demographic pressures that are already on us and will only intensify. It is, therefore, more than a bit disconcerting to hear such complacent noises from the Secretary to the Treasury, as if to pat us all on the head and say “don’t worry, we’ll get things sorted out eventually”. No doubt it will make for holiday reading for the public that the Minister of Finance will smile favourably upon. But one can only hope that when Rennie is alone with the Minister he is rather more urgent in his advice. If not, perhaps he really is the Secretary Willis wanted…..but the only sense in which he might then be a “change agent” is in somehow acting to help accustom us to a new grim reality in which neither main party is any longer that worried about returning to fiscal balance.
Rennie’s final line was that one about there allegedly being “confidence” our “fiscal institutions” will respond and consolidate successfully. I’m not sure who has this confidence – perhaps a few members of the government party caucuses – or what foundation any such confidence might rest on. It feels more like wishful thinking, or just spin.
Michael Reddell spent most of his career at the Reserve Bank of New Zealand, where he was heavily involved with monetary policy formulation, and in financial markets and financial regulatory policy, serving for a time as Head of Financial Markets. This article was sourced HERE
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