I've read the story - what's the actual problem? That's what I'm trying to figure out here today.
Apparently, some kids say they're 'Trump Boys' - i.e. like a majority of Americans, a few kids here support the Republican party or MAGA movement.
The other problem apparently is some school girls saying they want to be trad-wives, or traditional wives - to have children and stay at home to raise them.
Now, that's about as much detail as I could get from this particular story. And the moral of this was - the Government needs to take action on this, according to the unions.
Here's the problem - children are allowed to have political views and societal views of their own and teachers are not there to police politics.
Your job is apolitical, and we need to encourage critical thinking, not legislate against it.
There will be people who read that story and think: here we go again with the brainwashing thing. Your job is education, not indoctrination.
The reality is, not all girls will go on to be Reserve Bank Governors and not all boys will grow up to Reserve Bank Governors, either.
Not all boys will grow up to marry women… hello!
Everyone's different, that's my point.
But you can’t embrace kids changing genders with gay abandon then demand state intervention when a girl says she wants to get married and have kids.
I'm no conservative. Far from it. But I do hear a lot from parents who've lost faith in the education system, or at least some teachers within it.
If a girl wants to grow up to be a mum, is that radical? Or is that her choice? And if a kid wants to support Donald Trump, is that radical, or is that a choice?
Should they be branded an extremist for holding those views, or should those views be used as a springboard for a healthy debate about society?
Could this not be an opportunity to introduce and encourage critical thinking in young people?
Obviously, if there are specific misogynistic comments being made, then they should be dealt with through a disciplinary process.
But the problem with today's story is that they don't appear to be any examples of that actually happening.
I do not agree with the views these kids hold, but does that mean they shouldn't be able to hold them?
Ryan Bridge is a New Zealand broadcaster who has worked on many current affairs television and radio shows. He currently hosts Newstalk ZB's Early Edition - where this article was sourced.
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I would have thought the main student politicisation worry to be maorification with adoption of the arrogant irrational attitudes routinely demonstrated by TPM. It already accounts for much non attendance.
I cannot help but compare the relaxed indulged home life of my and my father's infant days, with mothers home all day, with the high stress fatiguing chaos of the typical both working family today. Possibly the same atmosphere is difficult for those cooped in modern apartments to create. With children from parents in their 30s inheritance arrives too late to be fully useful. Whilst the Anglo Saxon derived part of our society chases careers, maori, PI and many immigrants still comply with their instinct. If NZ is to retain some semblance of the structure under which it became a first world country, we should encourage all to be mums.
Supporting the Greens and climate views and certain other views is encouraged. I know I have teacher associates who see it as their duty to promote correct thinking.
You want radical, a lot of far left people love ardern, but apparently that's OK. Just not allowed any conservative views. That just highlights how far left we have moved especially in education and msm views. That's why most people don't trust schools, teachers and media now days. And rightly so!
Here is a quote from the story which I find quite ridiculous:
“A young student might submit an assignment, make a strong argument they probably see as coherent, presented in a persuasive manner to meet an assignment’s criteria, Stevens said. ‘But the argument is effectively about a traditional wife, arguing that a woman's role is meant to be in the household raising children.’”
But that is precisely what a young student should be doing: making sound logical and consistent arguments for what they believe to be the case. Furthermore, the school should teach them how to do that and provide a safe environment for them to practice it, including if they make mistakes. Instead, they are being chastened for it:
“Alongside students making arguments that even a few years ago ‘society would’ve utterly rejected’ Stevens said they were all part of a broader movement which pushes back on feminism.”
“These ideologies appeared predominantly in year 9 students, which meant it was ‘bound to get worse’, he said.”
Nonsense, they are exploring what they believe is a valid position and the school should facilitate them in doing it. Feed them reliable relevant information and encourage them to think things through. Organize school debates to encourage them to develop arguments and practice their oratory skills. In the process of so doing, they will also develop their opinions. Even so, they could also be pushing back on Establishment propaganda.
It is quite awful what they are doing to kids at school; it’s indoctrination not education. It’s bad enough that they propagandize the adults, but at least leave the kids alone. I do wonder what that does to the health of the nation.
When I was young and conservatives were in charge, young people were expected to be left wing and “progressive”. Now the world is insane and the left are largely in charge, the kids rebel against the norm again except this time it’s from “misinformation”, and their views are “dangerous”.
Give me a break.
Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone!
This is not just happening to school kids. It has been the case in university for YEARS. As an undergraduate in 1960s I well remember an assignment: 'Dr Johnson "Opera, an exotic and irrational entertainment" - DISCUSS...' Nowadays, even post-grad students in sociology get faced with multichoice questions..... FIXED ideas to be regurgitated.... [sorry 'regurgiddated'....]
Our schools ceased to be educational institutions many , many decades ago when progressive education deviously insinuated itself into schools . Using Fabian socialist tactics it happened very slowly with socialist ideology substituted for standard academic endeavours. particularly in the basics. There was an acceleration this century.
Socialist values are mostly left wing with attacks on the importance of family, cultural Christianity , self discipline , responsibility. and other conservative beliefs . Except for a few differences Fabian socialism is identical with Marxism. Their combined agenda is destruction of Western Culture and values.
I believe mothers should be mostly at home with preschoolers. Our schools and society are not raising stable , secure and confident young people since we have by far the highest teenage suicide rate.
The early years of a child's life are too important to be left entirely to institutions . A friend's daughter in a US state is at home with her two preschoolers and paid for by the husband's employer.. If that is what the Trump boys are advocating then I am for it .
Well well well. In 2025, the boys love Hitler and/or Jesus, and the girls want to be married mothers of 4 or 5 kids. And I'm not even joking by the way, because I see this trend personally, and more so online.
It's taken a long time for 60s liberal progressivism to run its course, but it's failed and the writing is on the wall - the kids aren't stupid and they can see they've been lied to. They dont care about the propaganda they a fed. They want a return to older, more natural ways of being and social ideas.
If the teachers are freaking out now about boys merely liking an essentially mainstream Trump, wait until they realise they also admire the Nazis.
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