In a recent interview with Jack Tame on Q+A, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer claimed—yet again—that “Māori never ceded sovereignty” and that at the time the Treaty of Waitangi was signed in 1840, “there were two sovereigns: the Crown and the sovereign of the hapū and iwi. The hour, the minute, the second before our natural development was interfered with, what we had was Māori determining their self-determination, and we had those who arrived, who weren’t doing well, who actually had to be looked after by their own sovereign.”
When gently pressed by Tame, Packer admitted that, as Māori, she has “more rights” than the rest of us—“indigenous rights”—though she tried to pass off that disgraceful admission as “more obligations to protect Aotearoa.” When Tame framed his next question around New Zealand moving forward in a modern world with equal standards of citizenship, Packer doubled down, stating, “We have different expectations and different rights, absolutely.”
So, there it is: racial apartheid is the single-minded goal of Te Pāti Māori.
This reply from Packer reminded me starkly of Jacinda Ardern during her spectacularly morbid COVID lockdowns. When asked by a journalist if she saw what she was doing as forming “two different classes of people, vaccinated and unvaccinated—where the vaccinated have all these rights,” Jacinda interrupted, grinning smugly: “That is what it is. Yup, yup.”
I’m old enough to remember a time when pushing for apartheid—racial or medical—was a shameful position, a divisive stance that nobody wanted to admit for fear of being judged a fascist. Yet, politics in New Zealand over the last few years seems to be smoking these types out of the hut. Maybe that’s a good thing. At least destructive political agendas are now being stated openly. Jacinda tore this country asunder with her divisive policies, and Packer would do the same if given half a chance.
Let’s just cut through the BS: far from being united under a single sovereign, as Packer imagines, Māori iwi and hapu (tribes and sub-tribes) were engaged in relentless internecine warfare. Colonisers and settlers from Britain eventually put a stop to the savagery. The chiefs ceded sovereignty to Queen Victoria via the Treaty of Waitangi in exchange for protection from other European powers, who might not have been as genteel. Packer’s notion that “there were two sovereigns” is comic fiction.
The British had outlawed slavery in 1833 in all their colonies with the Slavery Abolition Act—years before the Treaty was signed. The only people to practice slavery in these islands were Māori, until colonisation ended it.
When Packer claims “before our natural development was interfered with,” she conveniently ignores that Māori were not naturally developing at all. What spurred Māori development was colonisation. By 1867, all Māori males over 21 could vote, and dedicated Māori parliamentary seats ensured representation as equal citizens under the Crown.
From the way Packer and her activist ilk talk, you’d think Māori were subjected to 184 years of ruthless barbarity. I assure you, they were not. The welfare state, not colonisation, has been the true thief of Māori potential—as it has been for many Europeans. Generational dependence on government handouts destroys ambition and fosters entitlement. It’s a curse no matter your race.
There are many extraordinarily successful Māori who reject this toxic fixation on the past. They know that success comes from values and choices, not endless grievance. They must find Packer’s rhetoric about their race deeply embarrassing and patronising.
When gently pressed by Tame, Packer admitted that, as Māori, she has “more rights” than the rest of us—“indigenous rights”—though she tried to pass off that disgraceful admission as “more obligations to protect Aotearoa.” When Tame framed his next question around New Zealand moving forward in a modern world with equal standards of citizenship, Packer doubled down, stating, “We have different expectations and different rights, absolutely.”
So, there it is: racial apartheid is the single-minded goal of Te Pāti Māori.
This reply from Packer reminded me starkly of Jacinda Ardern during her spectacularly morbid COVID lockdowns. When asked by a journalist if she saw what she was doing as forming “two different classes of people, vaccinated and unvaccinated—where the vaccinated have all these rights,” Jacinda interrupted, grinning smugly: “That is what it is. Yup, yup.”
I’m old enough to remember a time when pushing for apartheid—racial or medical—was a shameful position, a divisive stance that nobody wanted to admit for fear of being judged a fascist. Yet, politics in New Zealand over the last few years seems to be smoking these types out of the hut. Maybe that’s a good thing. At least destructive political agendas are now being stated openly. Jacinda tore this country asunder with her divisive policies, and Packer would do the same if given half a chance.
Let’s just cut through the BS: far from being united under a single sovereign, as Packer imagines, Māori iwi and hapu (tribes and sub-tribes) were engaged in relentless internecine warfare. Colonisers and settlers from Britain eventually put a stop to the savagery. The chiefs ceded sovereignty to Queen Victoria via the Treaty of Waitangi in exchange for protection from other European powers, who might not have been as genteel. Packer’s notion that “there were two sovereigns” is comic fiction.
The British had outlawed slavery in 1833 in all their colonies with the Slavery Abolition Act—years before the Treaty was signed. The only people to practice slavery in these islands were Māori, until colonisation ended it.
When Packer claims “before our natural development was interfered with,” she conveniently ignores that Māori were not naturally developing at all. What spurred Māori development was colonisation. By 1867, all Māori males over 21 could vote, and dedicated Māori parliamentary seats ensured representation as equal citizens under the Crown.
From the way Packer and her activist ilk talk, you’d think Māori were subjected to 184 years of ruthless barbarity. I assure you, they were not. The welfare state, not colonisation, has been the true thief of Māori potential—as it has been for many Europeans. Generational dependence on government handouts destroys ambition and fosters entitlement. It’s a curse no matter your race.
There are many extraordinarily successful Māori who reject this toxic fixation on the past. They know that success comes from values and choices, not endless grievance. They must find Packer’s rhetoric about their race deeply embarrassing and patronising.
If Māori want progress—and most do—they must reject these divisive narratives. The only way forward for all of us is to embrace timeless virtues: responsibility, resilience, and a strong work ethic.
Olivia is a NZ blogger, author and essayist who likes to write about history and its wide influence on our present time. This article was sourced HERE
14 comments:
The false narrative of the Left parties and the msm will now ramp up for the coming 2 years - ad nauseam. They aim is to prevent a second term for the right at all costs. Reactions to ACT 's TP Bill be a telling indicator of public opinion.
All very true of course Olivia, but the only way to get the truth into the thick heads of activist maoris would be via a nail gun or perhaps a brainwashing session at a suitable 'boot camp'. Actually, as the Rev. Samuel Marsden opened a mission school just for maoris in 1816 at the Bay of islands maybe we should blame him for the current problems. Without his obvious colonialist interference the poor downtrodden aborigines of this country would not be able to read and eventually come to bite the unsuspecting hand that fed them a better life.
Ask the average Kiwi when Maoris got the right to vote and most have absolutely no idea at all. They are hugely surprised when you tell them both Maori men and woman won the right to vote on the same day and on the same terms as other New Zealanders.
When in 1893 New Zealand was the first nation in the World to grant woman the vote that included Maori women. That was about 30 years before women in Great Britain, America and most of the rest of the world.
Maori men were granted the vote in 1867. In America Black American men and women's rights to universal suffrage were finally confirmed almost a century later by the Voting Rights Act in 1965. Exactly a century after the end of the American Civil War, which was fought substantially over slavery.
Sir Apirana Ngata was made a cabinet minister in 1909. The first Black American cabinet minister was Robert Weaver who was appointed to President Johnson's cabinet in 1966. That's 57 years later, two World Wars later, just 3 years before man walked on the Moon.
It seems to me that some of the greater hindrances to Maori betterment is the Maori Party in general and Ngarewa -Packer and the cowboy clown specifically . Perhaps the need to read their history and be lot more like Sir Apirana Ngata and a lot less like the mongrel mob.
I remember not too long ago that we Kiwis were one people. Proud of our bicultural heritage and sharing a beautiful country together. Our unity was the envy of the world. We play sport together, socialise, marry and work together side by side but that has all changed. A divisive cloud has infected our country. John Key loaded the gun and Comrade Ardern pulled the trigger. It was all part of her Marxist destructive ambitions, Divide and Conquer. Well she certainly achieved that before sailing off into the sunset to join her empty headed liberal admirers and even jetting into the Democrat conference to give a first hand account on how to destroy a country.
It is time to get the 80 plus books pertaining to our history and removed from schools, universities, and public libraries some 45 years ago to be brought back and the many books published since to be added to them. These tribalists forget people were here before they arrived, and many of them were killed, cooked and eaten. Never let good food go to waste! There seems to be one word missing from this and that is "truth". Let us take five minutes (ten years?) and put it back!
Kevan
Foreign Correspondence Australia inteview with Debbie and Hana mouthing off about co governance and seperatism, riots, civil war etc etc
https://youtu.be/bsSJdH6wdzU?si=M5LhrV6IOqVdyRk1
Again a well opined article, that sadly the " majority of New Zealanders' will never get to read'.
" Unity or Apartheid" - I once again put to print, an oft placed comment that has appeared under past articles ( posted on this website) - that those of former South African Citizens ( white) who left their place of birth and moved to other Countries, New Zealand being a " leading contender". Just an aside, Russia has of recent years become another, odd, but true.
Those who now reside in New Zealand, over recent years have equated the rise of Maori Radicalism as being of a similar nature to the Black African Tribes who merged and created their African National Congress (ANC). Yes they " spoke out about the Apartheid of Africa, they also created major mayhem with attacks on the white population especially in rural areas (farming foremost) an don other African Tribes living across South Africa.
It was well known that " the financial backers and providers of weapons was Russia " who in those days (and still do) look to cause civil unrest within the minority population to overthrow the Government. You only have to look at the rest of Africa and look at those Nations that had internecine civil wars that destroyed tribes who opposed and/or did not join the majority tribe.
A good example is the Sudan, which is now " bleeding young males " who are heading toward Europe and United Kingdom.
A cross reference ( this article ) the paragraph staring - [quote]
" Let's just cut through the BS: far from ... [end quote] - yes it has been recorded by our Ancestor's past of Maori aggression toward other tribes , the " prized capture was the tattooed heads of the male enemy ( later smoked ) and the women ".
Those same heads -
[1] - being later used - " as currency " with Whalers & other passing ships for firearms, gunpowder and lead
[2] - that in later Years the New Zealander Taxpayer " paid to have them repatriated (especially from France) " as Maoridom wanted their ancestors returned to their native land, where they now reside at Te Papa in Wellington.
Maoridom who over years past have acquired, via Treaty Settlements large cash dividends, Ngai Tahu gain a % from any other settlement agreed to, but what do they do with that financial gain?
It is also interesting, that across Africa many Males attended the University of Moscow, which if you known Russian History, it would have had as a exemplary subject Socialism, thus my question is/ has Debbie Ngarewa - Packer been exposed to similar education values, because her verbal statements tend to suggest this, especially what she said on Q +A, which I would surmise that many Kiwi's changed channels at that point.
If they want apartheid, and of our current white population who could leave and go to Australia, how is Maoridom going to manage Industry & Commerce and the financial matters of the Country, it is no good asking the ANC, they have ruined South Africa?
TPM is after publicity - and they receive plenty of it as nobody calls their antics. It is concerning that the biased media is fanning their racist rhetorics, but it is even more concerning to see that the government doesn’t do anything about it.
What I'd like to ask Ngarewa-Packer; the cowboy-hatted buffoon; and all the other grifters of a similar ilk is: "How has being one who 'identifies' as Maori impacted you personally - precisely? You seem to be doing quite well, much better than many including a very great many non-Maori, so how have you been detrimentally impacted and if not, what makes you so special and why is that beyond others who identify similarly? The likes of, John Tamihere, Willie Jackson, Winston Peters et al, all identify as Maori, how come they're doing so well and who 'precisely' isn't and what do they do as a job for gainful employment? And, given you are only part-Maori and it's that Maori component that is purportedly the issue and is holding you and your compatriots back, why don't you/they just identify as another part of your ancestry, or is the real issue you're doing fine, but you need a cohort of Maori that are not in order to justify more welfare and other benefits? If you look at your Pacific brothers, say in Tonga (who, incidentally, didn't cede their sovereignty), how precisely are they doing better than you?"
Think Reverend Carl Völkner murdered by his Maori 'friends' on 2 March 1865 at Opotiki. That tells you a lot about Maori thought processes. One of the tragic episodes of NZ colonial history.
Obviously we are in strange times where the media don't report much. The Chinese influence in all of this springs to mind. For example, the recent September meeting of the Waipareira Trust and a Chinese delegation. Before that back in June, John Tamihere had a meeting with Ma Hui. What are you up to John?
Packer claims “before our natural development was interfered with,”
I have one simple question for Debbie; “Where do you think maori would be today, if the white man had not arrived in New Zealand?”
I asked the same question of John Tamihere recently. Not surprisingly I did not receive a reply!
Quite simply, Debbie, no matter whatever happened to Maori would not exist. Considering she is at least half, but I'd say 75% white man or woman.
There is a saying that 'give them enough rope and they will hang themselves' TPM and their ilk have had more than enough rope, but gullible and gutless politicians refuse to build the gallows
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