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Saturday, August 17, 2024

Peter Williams: Waitangi Tribunal Report Predictable


Seymour's courageous but who will support him?

That the Waitangi Tribunal was highly critical of the Act party’s proposed, although currently undrafted, Treaty Principles Bill was as predictable as the sun rising in the east.

The timing is not surprising either. The Tribunal has become an extraordinarily political body, one that in this instance has deliberately set out to fire many shots across the bow not just of Act, but of the entire governing Coalition before the Bill is presented to parliament in November.

At nearly 200 pages long, this is a thorough report with conclusions reached after evidence was presented over two days in May.

But it’s is based on the premise from the bombshell 2014 Tribunal report which told us that, contrary to what we’d all believed since 1840, the Chiefs who signed at Waitangi on February 6th that year did NOT cede sovereignty to the Crown.

The underlying issue reported here is the very one that David Seymour and his party are trying to overcome. That is, according to advice from no less than the Ministry of Justice, iwi/Maori as tangata whenua have “a unique constitutional status with specific rights under the Treaty/te Tiriti.”

That so-called “unique constitutional status” has never been conferred by Parliament nor voted on by the electorate. Rather it has been stated so often by judges and academics and the Waitangi Tribunal itself that it has become ingrained thinking in the minds of public servants, and the media.

Just like the concept of the Treaty being a “partnership” this “unique constitutional status” has become a factoid – a false claim repeated so often that it becomes accepted as fact or common knowledge.

As Seymour himself has said on numerous occasions “no society in history has succeeded by having differing political rights based on birth.”

Can anybody deny that reality?

His Treaty Principles Bill is therefore an attempt to successfully define in the 21st century, in a multi-cultural and ethnically-blended modern New Zealand, just what is meant by that seemingly innocent phrase, “the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi.” It was first inserted into a piece of legislation 1975 and over the last half century has turned out to be political dynamite.

As has been reported regularly this year, Seymour’s bill has three underlying principles:

(1) the New Zealand government has the right to govern all New Zealanders

(2) that the government will honour all New Zealanders in the chieftainship of their land and all their property

(3) all New Zealanders are equal under the law with the same rights and duties.

They are concepts quite brilliant in their simplicity. Who could possibly disagree with any of them?

Well, the Waitangi Tribunal no difficulty whatsoever!

The problem with the first principle is, according to the Tribunal’s evidence from lawyer Natalie Coates, “the Rangatira who signed te Tiriti o Waitangi in February 1840 did not cede their sovereignty to Britain. They retained their authority to make and enforce law over their people or their territories and agreed to share power and authority.”

This is repeating what the Tribunal has been saying for ten years. Notwithstanding that it flies in the face of evidence from speeches by various chiefs in 1840, by public comments made at the Kohimarama Conference of 1860 and by Sir Apirana Ngata at the Centenary of the Treaty in 1840, it has now become an accepted narrative among the judiciary, academics, the media and the public service – another factoid if you like.

Thus the Tribunal says the New Zealand Government does not have the right to govern all New Zealanders. Ms Coates says that Seymour’s first principle takes an agreement about “power sharing and turns it into an affirmation of the Crown as a largely unfettered sovereign.”

Frankly, that is arrant nonsense.

There was never any intention by the Crown in 1840 to “share power” with anyone. The Tribunal’s own famous Sir Hugh Kawhuru back-translation of the te reo version of the Treaty in 1989 says expressly “the chiefs give to the Queen of England for ever the complete government over their land.” That translation remains published on the Tribunal’s website today.

The Tribunal and the Ministry of Justice both have serious issues with Seymour’s second principle about “all New Zealanders” having chieftainship over their land and property.

The MOJ went so far as to say this was a “novel interpretation of Article Two” of the Treaty and that “they did not think it has ever been the policy of the Crown that Article Two applied to anyone other than Maori.”

Yet the Maori version of the Treaty that was signed reads “ki nga tangata katoa o Nu Tirani..” which means in any translation, “all the people of New Zealand..”

Modern day historians claim that in 1840 “all the people in New Zealand” did not actually mean “all the people” at all, but rather only Maori. It’s a significant issue and is yet another example of a Treaty which was not that well drafted or translated or back-translated or copied at the time. The slack administration around this document was shoddy to say the least and has caused no end of issues for nearly two hundred years!

But the point is Seymour is not rewriting the Treaty of Waitangi. He is trying to establish principles based on the Treaty to put into modern law in 21st century New Zealand.

As millions of New Zealanders of all ethnic backgrounds now own land and property, the Act leader just wants the government to guarantee that those New Zealanders can continue to own and control their land and property without undue outside influence, and under the law of the land. Is that an unfair principle to uphold in a liberal democracy?

The third proposed principle would seem an absolute no brainer. Who will challenge the idea that we as New Zealanders are all equal under the law with the same rights and duties? But remarkably the Tribunal writes that “equal citizenship promised in Article 3 has not yet been fulfilled.

You what?

Is there any person with New Zealand citizenship or residence who is denied the rights of others?

But then we read what the Tribunal’s problem is. You see “formal equality does not and has not ensured equitable outcomes.”

Here’s a revelation. The world does not provide equitable outcomes. A country like New Zealand with its democratic government provides equality of opportunity. Equitable outcomes can never be guaranteed.

Seymour’s bill is a bold attempt to move the race relations conversation forward. It has hit a serious roadblock with the intransigence of the National Party to show some courage and actually take part in the conversation.

Christopher Luxon’s promise that his party won’t be voting for the bill at the second reading is another sign of a party that cannot face up to its obligations of leadership. It is cowed into submission by the loud voices of the Waitangi Tribunal and its fellow travellers.

Seymour should be congratulated for trying to move on a matter that after fifty years of trying is no closer to being resolved than it was in 1975. Despite a Maori led economy based on the proceeds of large Treaty Settlements now worth billions, it’s blatantly obvious that nothing will satisfy aggressive Maori leadership short of a complete takeover.

That cannot happen and what Seymour is trying to do is bring some sanity and balance back to the discussion.

More’s the pity so few will engage sensibly with him.

Peter Williams was a writer and broadcaster for half a century. Now watching from the sidelines. Peter blogs regularly on Peter’s Substack - where this article was sourced.

35 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well written article Peter - and that is the truth of it all

Anonymous said...

This article should be printed in gold plated letters on a chunk of timber and proudly displayed at Te Papa, made a full page ad in the print media (Stuff and the Herald) and be made compulsory reading in all schools, universities and dare one say for ALL MPs.

Basil Walker said...

Mr Luxon , the Prime Minister only needs to say "On reflection I support democracy and the sovereignty of Parliament and therefore National will support the normal accepted process of Parliament for the Treaty Principles Bill" to itsrequired conclusion.
AND WHY, Mr Luxon and National should that not be correct.?

Doug Longmire said...

Excellent article, Peter.
You have described the issues very clearly and truthfully.
What a refreshing change from the complicated, factually wrong, twisted and racist verbiage that we see and hear all the time from the Tribunal and the Maori Party.

Ray S said...

If Luxon (National) don't support the bill, Maori will see that the govt. listened has to the Waitangi Tribunal and acted accordingly.
It's quite obvious that "treaty principles" must be defined.
As we have seen, "treaty principles" are quoted ad nauseam whenever Maori perceive a wrong inflicted by the crown.
The tribunal has well passed its use by date, it was primarily set up to look at treat settlements, it is now operating outside its original intent.

Good article Peter.

Anonymous said...

This is amazing Peter and I wish it was published more widely. We owe a huge amount to you and Don Brash and others who keep we the little people informed and ready to support. More power to David Seymour. He is probably the most effective speaker of all our politicians. While not a follower of his I will support him. Thank you so much for supporting our free country and hopefully future generations.

Hazel Modisett said...

First, I would say the vast majority of NZers support Seymour, which is why this issue must be taken out of the hands of politicians & bureaucrats & put to the vote
(if we truly are a Democracy ?)
Secondly, it must be decided once & for all which version of the Treaty is authentic & codified into Law to end the confusion.
Lastly & most importantly, we have no Constitution, allowing the Executive, Legislative & Judiciary branches of of govt to cherry pick from a vast array of documents that support their viewpoint, often coming to different conclusions depending on where they sourced their info & lacking any form of checks & balances to safeguard NZers against over reach & corruption.
NZ must adopt a Constitution via referendum & consent that protects ALL NZers & rewrite our Bill of Rights in order to safeguard ALL of our inalienable rights & Civil Liberties. Once this is done, the ToW can be relegated to public display at Te Papa where it belongs.
Also, something is terribly wrong when a tribunal that was initiated by the govt now believes it has the authority to censure the govt & dictate terms. The Tribunal must be dissolved ASAP & the parasitic IWI "elites" need to be removed from the public trough. They have had more than their fair share of our money & need to be reminded how the average Maori lives. Send them all to Kaikohe or Manurewa & get them productive jobs sorting recycling at the nearest waste transfer centre...

Allen Heath said...

I'd like to think that as the proportion of 'maori genes' becomes increasingly diluted with intermarriage over the next few generations, current attempts at propounding a form of apartheid will be seen as fallacious. Only die-hard maori racists sucking on the taxpayers' teats will maintain the lie of ethnic purity and need for separate governance. Anyway, if they think that is the way to go, let them, not us, pay for it.

Anonymous said...

What is a Maori? It is a person of mixed ethnicity who can be found on a marae in NZ. What is a New Zealander? A citizen of NZ. There are no Aotearoans. We don't want no racist bullshit in NZ.

Anonymous said...

Brilliant article, Peter - so clear.
Why is the taxpayer continuing to fund what is essentially a pack of lobbyists? Why does our government continue to allow a gang of menacing activists to pretend to be some sort of august judicial body, when the fact is its objective is to grab political power, public monies and the country’s natural resources for Maori?

Ellen said...

Logic would prove you right Allen, but it seems to me that the people making the most noise have a minority of Maori DNA - amusing if it were not so divisive and illogical.

Anonymous said...

I am so sick of all this. I cant get past all the blatant racism thrown at non maori, many of whom have bicultural families. The same narrative is occurring in Auz, America, and England. Its not even original. Its just anti white racism everywhere. How would it go down if there was a party here called The Pakeha Party? If Pakeha demanded a seat at the table of every marae because of our "treaty partnership"? Is the crown allowed to have principles of the treaty? Its all so one sided. I dont want to say a waiata; I am not a spiritual person. I dont want to learn another language; I am too old and lazy. I resent that there even needs to be a treaty principles bill and I dont believe I should be held accountable for something my ancestors may or may not have done. I do not want my childrens worth to be determined by whether or not they are a good treaty partner, or for them to be passed over for a scholarship or job because someone else needs an equity leg up. I dont understand how any of this is ok and why more people aren't mad about it. We are all animals, the same species, of the earth. Our problems are many but this is what we are forced to worry about? I was born here. My ancestors also walked this land and are buried here. I also have a special connection to the beaches, the rivers, the forests. Recently it was discovered that the alter stone of Stonehenge came from the northeast of Scotland, 740km away. It is made up of stones from England, Wales, and Scotland. They dont know how and they dont know why but the conclusion was that there must have been huge amounts of social cohesion between these people and places to pull it off. It would be great if NZ could build a place like that; something so strong it is still standing after 5000 years; a place built for everyone by everyone.

nuku said...

Brilliant and cogent commentary on the Tribunal. I've copied this and sent it to all National Party and NZ First members of Parliament. Not only do they need to support the Principles Bill, but they need to abolish the woke Tribunal.

Doug Longmire said...

I agree with Anon above. Well said !
NZ is now an apartheid State with the most racist policies in the world at its core.
In NZ today, there is:
1. Legislated discrimination on the basis of race
2. Legislated elevation of one race above all others – creating a superior race with super privileges to make decisions for other races
3. Job reservation for the superior race – powerful public positions with decision making authority over all races are restricted to members of the superior race
4. An oft-used mechanism for handing over significant portions of public cash to the superior race only

The first 3 of these NZ measures mirror those during the darkest days of 1970s apartheid South Africa. But not the 4th measure - not even the apartheid Afrikaner government handed over significant portions of public cash to their superior race.

Anonymous said...

Three documents that can’t be disputed and sing from the same song sheet as far as the meaning and intent of the treaty is concerned are; the James Busby final draft dated 4th February 1840, the Maori language Tiriti o Waitangi dated 6th February 1840 and the 1869 official back translation of te Tiriti o Waitangi done by Mr T E Young of the Native department. Yet the state refuses to acknowledge two of them?
The treaty was signed while New Zealand was under the dependency/laws of New South Wales, which was a British Colony, which means New Zealand was claimed by Britain when it extended the boundaries of New South Wales over all the Islands of New Zealand. This was done with the Queen Victoria’s Royal Charter/Letters Patent dated 30th July 1839. This means the Maori/Aboriginal native had no sovereignty to cede.
New Zealand remained under the laws and dependency of New South Wales until separated by Queen Victoria’s Royal Charter/Letters Patent dated 16th November 1840. New Zealand formally declared itself an independent colony on the 3rd May 1841, under one flag and one law irrespective of race colour or creed.
The state also knows of these two Royal Charters.
So, we have been lied to about our true history. New Zealand was legally claimed by Britain under the “law of Nations” and we became an independent British Colony by the Royal Charter/Letters/Patent of 1839 and 1840.
The treaty was really to satisfy a group of British Aristocratic Evangelical Anglicans (Clapham Sect) that the Maori/Aboriginal native of New Zealand were given the same rights as the people of England, no more and no less. The Aboriginal natives agreed to this.
The state needs to explain why they have lied to us and why they are hell bent on destroying our country in spite of our true history being known by them?

Doug Longmire said...

Just as an aside:-
I personally do not use or accept the word “pakeha”.
It is a derogatory insult.
I recall years ago, Syd Jackson, in a TV interview used the word over and over again, with hate in his voice. He spat the word out.
He did not actually say “Bloody pakeha !!” but the message was clear.
I regard this “p” word as in the same category as the “n” word.

Robert Arthur said...

Those whose blood pressure is within safe limits should listen to rerun of julian Wilcox RNZ midday 17th. Seems maori know what the Principles are.

Peter said...

All predicated on four lies - Maori didn't cede sovereignty; only Maori retained chieftainship over their property; the Treaty was a "partnership"; and, Maori are the tangata whenua.

Why look to Sir Hugh Kawharu for a back translation nearly a century and a half after the event when we all know language changes over time and when we had Judge T E Young (of the Native Land Court and who was a Native interpreter to the Maori members of the House of Representatives) who translated Te Tiriti just 29 years after its signing with the following:

Victoria, Queen of England, in her kind thoughtfulness of the chiefs and hapus of New Zealand, and her desire to preserve to them their chieftainship and their lands, and that peace may always be kept with them and quietness, she has thought it a right thing that a Chief should be sent here as a negotiator with the Maori of New Zealand – that the Maori of New Zealand may consent to the Government of the Queen of all parts of this land and the islands, because there are many of her tribe that have settled on this land and are coming hither. Now the Queen is desirous to establish the Government, that evil will not come to Maori or the Europeans who are living without law.

Now the Queen has been pleased to send me, William Hobson, a Captain in the Royal Navy, to be Governor to all parts of New Zealand which may be given up now or hereafter to the Queen; and he give forth to the Chief of the assembly of the Hapus of New Zealand and other chiefs the laws spoken here.

The First
The Chiefs of the Assembly, and all chiefs also who have not joined the Assembly, give up entirely to the Queen of England forever all the Government of their lands.

The Second
The Queen of England arranges and agrees to give to the chiefs, the Hapus and all the people of New Zealand, the full chieftainship of their lands, their settlements and their property. But the Chiefs of the Assembly, and all other chiefs, gives to the Queen the purchase of those pieces of land which the proprietors may wish, for payment as may be agreed upon by them and the purchaser who is appointed by the Queen to be her purchaser.

The Third
This is an arrangement for the consent to the Government of the Queen. The Queen of England will protect all the Maori of New Zealand. All the rights will be given to them the same as her doings to the people of England.

Peter said...

Continuing - Which essentially aligns with what was back-translated from Sir Apirana Ngata's belief of the Treaty some eighty years later but, also more importantly, the last known English draft of the Treaty, by James Busby (known as the "Littlewood" document that went unknown until rediscovered in 1989), the day before it being presented to Maori (in their language) which says:

Her Majesty Victoria, Queen of England in her gracious consideration for the chiefs and people of New Zealand, and her desire to preserve them their land and to maintain peace and order amongst them, has been pleased to appoint an officer to treat with them for the cession of the Sovreignty [sic] of their country and of the islands adjacent to the Queen. Seeing that already many of Her Majesty’s subjects have already settled in the country and are constantly arriving: And that it is desirable for their protection as well as the protection of the natives to establish a government amongst them.

Her Majesty has accordingly been pleased to appoint me William Hobson a captain in the Royal Navy to be Governor of such parts of New Zealand as may now or hereafter be ceded to Her Majesty and proposes to the chiefs of the Confederation of United Tribes of New Zealand and the other chiefs to agree to the following articles.-

Article first

The chiefs of the Confederation of the United Tribes and the other chiefs who have not joined the confederation, cede to the Queen of England for ever the entire Sovreignty [sic] of their country.

Article second

The Queen of England confirms and guarantees to the chiefs and the tribes and to all the people of New Zealand, the possession of their lands, dwellings and all their property. But the chiefs of the Confederation of United Tribes and the other chiefs grant to the Queen, the exclusive rights of purchasing such lands as the proprietors thereof may be disposed to sell at such prices as may be agreed upon between them and the person appointed by the Queen to purchase from them.

Article third

In return for the cession of their Sovreignty [sic] to the Queen, the people of New Zealand shall be protected by the Queen of England and the rights and privileges of British subjects will be granted to them.

Signed, William Hobson

Consul and Lieut. Governor.

Now we the chiefs of the Confederation of United Tribes of New Zealand assembled at Waitangi, and we the other tribes of New Zealand, having understood the meaning of these articles, accept them and agree to them all. In witness whereof our names or marks are affixed. Done at Waitangi on the 4th* of February, 1840. (The date of the preparation of the English draft, which was obviously not translated into Maori and signed until the 6th.)

Between these documents and Te Tiriti, they prove the truth to the stated lies, or as the Roman's might have said, QED.

It's past time we had a referendum for the people of New Zealand to decide what is their future.

Anonymous said...

Anon@3.26pm. I think you speak for many New Zealanders who really have had their fill of the racism promulgated by a small cohort, that by virtue of significant resources on the one hand and ignorance and woke stupidity on the other, promote a division that now pervades almost every sphere of activity within our country. Of course, this is all aided and abetted by our MSM who, like the "Greens", have lost sight of their raison d'etre and with it their common sense. Together, our ancestors tamed this land and made it a truly great place to be, but now a few amongst us are keen to divide and usurp what is patently not theirs to take.
Howsoever sickening and unwelcome the necessity, we absolutely need to have the discussion over Seymour’s Treaty Principles Bill for, if we don’t establish the ground rules once and for all, it will continue to fester and divide us, and that can have but only one conclusion and it is not peace.

To overcome this our country needs a leader - it’s present one doesn’t appear up to the task.

Allen said...

Mr. Luxon. please consider the following words spoken Sir Apirana Nata in your considerations on the Treaty Principles Bill
"What remains of the Treaty of Waitangi?  What is there in the Treaty that the Maori can today celebrate whole-heartedly with you?  Let me say one thing: Clause 1 of the Treaty handed over the mana and the sovereignty of New Zealand to Queen Victoria and her descendants forever, that is the outstanding fact today. That but for the shield of the sovereignty handed over to her majesty and her descendants I doubt whether there would be a free Maori race in New Zealand today…. I doubt whether any native race has been so well treated by a European people as the Maori of New Zealand".

mudbayripper said...

Division is but a tool employed throughout the western world.
We all live amidst the final, inevitable decline into a new form human governance.
History shows this process is not unexpected as it's been played out before, its inevitable.
The human condition regardless of our environment remains constant.
Primal instinct to dominate trumps wisdom, knowledge and perceived civilization. We in the west are experiencing first hand the transition from old to new in real time.
The old will die in fear and bewilderment, the young will be unaware until its too late..
Good luck to all of us.

anonymous said...

2 options
Leave now ( and before 2026) - as happened in Sth Africa 50 + years ago
OR
Force politicians to have a referendum ASAP .

Otherwise , a lost cause.

No more prevarication and endless discussion.

Anonymous said...

Explained well Peter. Never have I felt so frustrated at the unwillingness of National, and more particularly Christopher Luxon, at the lack of urgency they are attaching to such an important subject affecting all NZer’s. Good on you Nuku for forwarding Peter’s piece to the politicians. I just hope they get to read it. Peter’s take should be an opinion piece in all NZ papers and especially in online news.

Hiko said...

Excellent article and right on point Peter
Congratulations Nuku for forwarding to parliamentarians

Doug Longmire said...

Maori Party Press release contained these comments:-

Māori owe no allegiance to the genocidal legacy of the British Empire.
There is no honour in the Crown. It is tainted with the blood of indigenous nations, and its throne sits at the apex of global white supremacy.

The harm caused by your Crown is now intergenerational and irreparable. Indigenous blood stains the throne you on.
We do not consent, we do not surrender, we do not cede, we do not submit; we, the indigenous, are rising. We do not buy into the colonial fictions this House is built upon.

Anonymous said...

If Luxon was unwell, I'm absolutely sure that he would deal with the issue.
He is not only in charge of his own body and mental health, but also that of 5.5M people, and yet is failing to even address the issue of what is causing grief to most of us.
When is he going to stop deliberately ignoring the pain that radical Maori are inflicting on all NZers ?

nuku said...

An Update on my above comment:
I sent copies of Peter's analysis to 45 members of NZ Parliament (all MPs except Labour and Greens) and so far have received only one reply, from Maureen Pugh:
Thank you for sharing this article Sandy. I have read it thoroughly.
As you may also know the Govt is reviewing the role of the Waitangi Tribunal. Originally set up and funded to assist with treaty settlements it has re-invented itself and therefore its terms require clarification.
You mention that only the Government can make the laws for NZ however it is the courts that have interpreted some of those laws differently from their intended outcome in recent times, for example the Foreshore and Seabed legislation. We are preparing to clarify the purpose of that law and stop further claims.

nuku said...

Thanks for that Doug
Re Maori Party rant about the British Empire:
Since these clowns don't buy into the "fictions this House is built upon", why don't they do the honorable thing, quit the House and renounce their cushy pay?
Oh no, They've got to keep sucking on the fat white tit of the Empire; how else would these losers support themselves? Utter hypocrisy, but no surprise to us who foot the bill.

Doug Longmire said...

That's the kind of attitude we are facing.
Flip the script. If a a "pakeha party" was formed and made this kind of statement - the outrage from all would be enormous. TV1 would have a special broadcast to condemn it.
So - why is it acceptable from the (racially defined) Maori Party ??

Ellen said...

Pfffttt!

Basil Walker said...

Nuku, The comments from Maureen Pugh MP that Govt are reviewing the role of the Waitangi Tribunal is very interesting and quite different from the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi Bill from ACT leader David Seymour . Thank you for the post .

Anonymous said...

My hope is that Mr Luxton is concentrating on getting the economy sorted and hoping this will be done before Davids Bill is tabled. Letting his two lieutenants take the lead on the race issues. But fervently hope by years end will step up to the plate. If he doesn't, could well see David Seymour as Prime Minister next election, and National Party be a minor coalition member

Anonymous said...

Wake up Luxon, if not you are just confirming what more of us are thinking, you are weak, pathetic and racist. Prepared to give the Maori radicals anything for just a few more years peace. Successive Government's have all fallen over themselves in a guilt ridden attempt to appease at any price, now look at where we are Grow some Luxon, and we will all respect you. Good on you David and ACT.

Anonymous said...

Let's face it people, Luxon is a globalist. And as such he buys into the globalist agenda including, UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, in which NZ signed on to. So, while Luton is at the helm, nothing much will happen in regards to the Treaty and Maori rights etc. We can only hope that in the next election more people wake up and vote Act and NZF - then we may see a greater move to abolish the Treaty, and get rid of all the leech's with their greedy little snouts in the trough.