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Friday, October 2, 2026

Clive Bibby: The Nation Building Conundrum


I make no claims to being even a knowledgeable local historian and certainly not a commentator in the same league as Professor Paul Moon who is renowned for his abilities as a fact checker at a time when our national sovereignty is under threat from radical, separatist academics who have a passion for making things up.

And surprise, surprise - most of these guys are not all dissident Maori activists.

Their ranks include some of our most senior judges and leading politicians.

No! I am just a simple, forcibly retired, ex farmer observer who has spent a lifetime living and working amongst those who claim whakapapa lineage with ancestors who peacefully engaged with Cook at Uawa (Tolaga Bay) in 1769 and again on his subsequent return voyages to New Zealand a couple of years later.

What I have learned from listening to local Kaumatua explaining their “handed down” accounts of what actually happened and reading from the alternative versions in Cook’s logs is that the current dismissal of Cook’s visits as the basis for our multi-cultural nation building is something we ignore at our peril.

Consequently, I am in total support of the Act Party’s election manifesto commitment to abolish the Waitangi Tribunal after the final treaty settlement has been signed.

Because unfortunately the Tribunal - originally established to aid the Crown in the settlement process and advocate on behalf of the claimants, helping them establish a case for compensation that fairly reflected an entitlement due to Crown breaches of the Treaty - has outgrown its usefulness and is no longer being used in a manner that is in keeping with its original establishment.

It has become a mouthpiece for radical separatists who want to see the court used as a continuation of the never ending, grievance industry, compensation process that has grown a life of its own.

Let’s be clear - that comment is not meant to be a slur on the judgements that have been made or the amounts of compensation that have been paid since the tribunal began its work. For most of the time since its inauguration, it has assisted in ensuring that the justifiable grievances did not erupt into violence on the streets. Surely helping avoid that possibility is one of Tribunal’s greatest achievements.

But none of this discussion will help to solve the conundrum that exists surrounding the need to establish what part the Treaty should play in the formation of legislation that comes before the House in the future.

Should it be seen as the founding document of our multi-cultural society with “add on, made up principles” enabling interpretations that encourage dissident activity - or simply as a historical relic of a bygone era.

My guess is that most citizens would like it to remain as a founding document upon which much of our law is based but not something that should be used to provide an interpretation that has no basis in truth.

It is a unique document that was instrumental in solving a major problem associated with 1840’s nation building but it was not designed to accommodate the nuances associated with different social and racial tends of the 21st century.

And here’s the thing!

You can’t expect a functioning multi-cultural society to succeed simply because an agreement drafted soon after the first bunch of new immigrants arrived provided a format for survival at least until something better is put in its place. In the meantime, you have to hope that all ethnic groups share a common desire to abide by common law and that any nation building will be dependent on everybody accepting the laws governing an integrated society.

And so far our nation’s history shows why we are regarded as being amongst the best examples of how it can work.

But in the end, success has little to do with rules and regulations - you can’t legislate cooperation if the desire is not there in the first place and constructive nation building will remain a utopian dream in spite of government edicts requiring that it happen if the vast majority of all ethnic groups refuses to accept their individual responsibility to make it happen.

We must use the coming election as perhaps the last opportunity to safeguard our society from the radical elements within who appear hell bent on creating an environment where only the elite and the privileged survive.

Make sure your choices at the ballot box ensure the sacrifices of our forebears are not wasted on the adoption of false doctrines and separatist indoctrination.

Clive Bibby is a commentator, consultant, farmer and community leader, who now lives in Taranaki.

8 comments:

Barend Vlaardingerbroek said...

>"... you have to hope that all ethnic groups share a common desire to abide by common law and that any nation building will be dependent on everybody accepting the laws governing an integrated society"
Having a Constitution helps in this regard. In the US, the Constitution - or rather, the values that the Constitution promotes - has doctrinal status and unites people from all ethnic groups. Whatever your ethnic/cultural heritage, it is the belief in the Constitution that makes you identify as an American.
Not so for Australia where the Constitution has a rather low profile. The Australian Constitution is a handbook for running a country made up of half a dozen separate states. It does not inspire feelings of national identity like the US Constitution does. And yet there is a cohesiveness based on people of numerous ethnic groups identifying as Australians that is much better developed than it is in NZ. Why?
There has long been talk of drafting a NZ Constitution based on ToW. That would do the exact opposite of what a Constitution is supposed to do - it would divide rather than unite.
BTW don't tell me NZ has a 'constitution' because I know that - but it's a 'small-c' rather than 'capital-C' one, the latter being a document bearing that name. The NZ 'constitution' is in bits and pieces that go back to 13th century England.
Perhaps Australia's success in engendering a feeling of 'belonging' to an Australian 'family' of races and cultures is attributable in part to the diversity we encounter in Aus society and the recognition thereof - 'multiculturalism' as a fact of daily life rather than a social engineering strategy. 'Biculturalism' is a political paradigm and not a reflection of NZ society, but does negate the existence of ethnocultural groups outside the Anglo Saxon/Maori duo. This may well be impeding the development of a NZ identity that everyone can relate to.
I am doing a lot of thinking aloud here - developing a NZ identity (as there are an American identity and an Australian identity) is an important issue that has been eclipsed by the focus on 'bi'culturalism.

Ewan McGregor said...

Barend makes some interesting comments here re the U S and Australian situations. The constitution is the sheet-anchor of its democracy, but changing - that is, modifying - it proves to be very difficult as it requires a significant majority, which means both parties. Given the current division in their two-party politics, that is a very tough call.
But he acknowledges it thus; “Whatever your ethnic/cultural heritage, it is the belief in the Constitution that makes you identify as an American.” This is the problem we have I believe. The establishment of Māori electorates in the first instant was justified when franchising depended on land ownership and Māori collectively owned land. This has not been the case for a very long time. I think that constitutional separation, as is with Māori electorates, is at the root of much of the political racial divisions that we have today. A politician, or an aspirant of such, will always seek to accommodate his/her voters by exploit grievance, or create the perception of such. You may have the same to an extent with a Māori Party now with mmp, but it is not constitutionally established. In any case, it eliminates the need for Māori electorates, which was the recommendation of the Electorate Commission.

Ellen said...

We are not a trusting population. We resist extending the 3 year electoral term altho' it seems to make sense, equally a constitution tho' that has obvious attraction. Maybe its because of our experience with the Treaty - which seemed so basic - functional, mutually agreed - and recently abused. Hmmmm.

Anonymous said...

Write a new Constitution that makes every single person feel that they are a New Zealander.
Consign the name Aotearoa to the artsy fringe people (ban it from the media when talking about our country).
Send the TOW to the archives and all iterations of its interpretations to the fire.
Wind up the Waitangi Tribunal.
Cancel the Maori seats.
Cancel funding for universities that are actively subverting the principles they were founded on and dishonor.
Make government departments and all who receive government funds stop all racist words and projects.
Only the activists will be upset.

Anonymous said...

Actually it is Marxism that has invaded our media , civil service , judiciary and academia as was planned all along. Christianity is the main opponent of Marxism , but that has been cancelled out and vilified as well.

MODERATOR said...

Anon 858, does this comment belong to another article? It seems out of place here.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 3.59 comments sum up my thoughts. I can't see the decisive outcomes National promised last election! Hence, I will split my vote this election. Commenter's speak of trust. Polical parties need to also except responsibility for the publics lack of confidence. It is time for a strong vision and decisive leadership; knowing there will by serious head wind. It is "big girl pants" time!!!

Clive Bibby said...

Moderator
Thank you for altering my residency status.
It is appreciated .
Regards
Clive

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