Writing for the University of Auckland, political theorist Stephen Winter warns of “short-sighted constitutional instability”, pointing to changes involving Treaty principles, Māori wards, electoral law and the Bill of Rights. He proposes stronger institutional safeguards, including a permanent constitutional select committee.
But this puts the cart before the horse. The far more fundamental question Winter does not adequately confront is:
Who authorised the transformation of New Zealand's constitutional arrangements in the first place?
For decades, governments, courts, academics and public institutions have progressively expanded the constitutional significance of the Treaty of Waitangi. Concepts such as “partnership”, “principles of the Treaty”, “co-governance”, “tino rangatiratanga” and “tikanga Māori” have acquired political and legal significance far beyond the actual words of the 1840 Treaty.
That is not constitutional stability.
It is constitutional change by accumulation.
Winter complains that Parliament has been changing constitutional arrangements without sufficiently recognising what it is doing. Yet the same criticism can be levelled at the institutions and intellectual movement that have spent decades expanding the Treaty from a historical agreement into something resembling a foundational constitutional compact.
The Treaty Principles Bill was not an attack on constitutionalism. It was an attempt to force the argument into the open.
And that is precisely why it generated such controversy.
The public was finally being asked to consider whether the Treaty should have an undefined and potentially expanding constitutional role in the government of New Zealand.
Parliament rejected the Bill. Fine. That is democracy.
But the answer cannot be to continue addressing similar constitutional questions through other legislation, policy, judicial interpretation or administrative practice while pretending that nothing fundamental is happening.
Winter himself acknowledges the problem. He notes that after the Treaty Principles Bill was defeated, subsequent legislation continued dealing with Treaty principles and constitutional questions.
That should concern anyone who believes constitutional change ought to have democratic legitimacy.
There is another uncomfortable issue.
Winter describes the Treaty Principles Bill as producing an enormous public reaction, with thousands making submissions and people joining marches and hui because they understood its constitutional consequences.
Exactly.
That public reaction demonstrated something important: New Zealanders are perfectly capable of engaging with constitutional questions when they are actually told what is at stake.
The answer therefore isn't necessarily another parliamentary committee.
It is democratic clarity.
If fundamental constitutional change is proposed, the public should be told plainly what is changing, what powers are being transferred, who gains those powers, who loses them and what the long-term consequences will be.
And if the proposal fundamentally changes the relationship between citizens and the state, it should not be smuggled through under the convenient label of “Treaty principles”.
There is a second problem with Winter's argument. He treats constitutional instability largely as a problem of process.
But process alone cannot resolve a disagreement over constitutional substance.
A standing constitutional committee could scrutinise legislation more carefully. It could produce reports, develop precedents and identify constitutional implications.
But it cannot answer the fundamental question:
Should New Zealand be governed as one democratic nation under one law, or should constitutional authority increasingly be divided according to ancestry and collective tribal status?
That is not a technical question for constitutional lawyers.
It is a question for New Zealanders.
New Zealand already has a constitutional principle of enormous importance: Parliament is elected by the people and accountable to them.
If we want to change that fundamental arrangement, then let's have the courage to say so.
Let's have a genuine constitutional convention. Let's put the competing visions before the public. Let's debate the Treaty texts, parliamentary sovereignty, individual rights, equal citizenship, Māori customary interests, judicial power and the role of international law.
And then, if fundamental change is proposed, let the people decide.
What New Zealand does not need is another layer of constitutional engineering carried out primarily by politicians, lawyers, academics and public institutions while ordinary citizens are expected to discover the consequences after the fact.
The real danger isn't that New Zealand talks too little about its constitution.
It is that we have allowed enormous constitutional questions to be decided without ever having the constitutional debate.
Stability will not come from creating another committee to manage an unresolved argument.
It will come from settling the argument honestly, openly and democratically.
One country. One Parliament. One law. Equal citizenship. And constitutional change decided by the people who live under it.
That would be a constitutional settlement worth defending.
Geoff Parker is a passionate advocate for equal rights and a colour blind society.
For decades, governments, courts, academics and public institutions have progressively expanded the constitutional significance of the Treaty of Waitangi. Concepts such as “partnership”, “principles of the Treaty”, “co-governance”, “tino rangatiratanga” and “tikanga Māori” have acquired political and legal significance far beyond the actual words of the 1840 Treaty.
That is not constitutional stability.
It is constitutional change by accumulation.
Winter complains that Parliament has been changing constitutional arrangements without sufficiently recognising what it is doing. Yet the same criticism can be levelled at the institutions and intellectual movement that have spent decades expanding the Treaty from a historical agreement into something resembling a foundational constitutional compact.
The Treaty Principles Bill was not an attack on constitutionalism. It was an attempt to force the argument into the open.
And that is precisely why it generated such controversy.
The public was finally being asked to consider whether the Treaty should have an undefined and potentially expanding constitutional role in the government of New Zealand.
Parliament rejected the Bill. Fine. That is democracy.
But the answer cannot be to continue addressing similar constitutional questions through other legislation, policy, judicial interpretation or administrative practice while pretending that nothing fundamental is happening.
Winter himself acknowledges the problem. He notes that after the Treaty Principles Bill was defeated, subsequent legislation continued dealing with Treaty principles and constitutional questions.
That should concern anyone who believes constitutional change ought to have democratic legitimacy.
There is another uncomfortable issue.
Winter describes the Treaty Principles Bill as producing an enormous public reaction, with thousands making submissions and people joining marches and hui because they understood its constitutional consequences.
Exactly.
That public reaction demonstrated something important: New Zealanders are perfectly capable of engaging with constitutional questions when they are actually told what is at stake.
The answer therefore isn't necessarily another parliamentary committee.
It is democratic clarity.
If fundamental constitutional change is proposed, the public should be told plainly what is changing, what powers are being transferred, who gains those powers, who loses them and what the long-term consequences will be.
And if the proposal fundamentally changes the relationship between citizens and the state, it should not be smuggled through under the convenient label of “Treaty principles”.
There is a second problem with Winter's argument. He treats constitutional instability largely as a problem of process.
But process alone cannot resolve a disagreement over constitutional substance.
A standing constitutional committee could scrutinise legislation more carefully. It could produce reports, develop precedents and identify constitutional implications.
But it cannot answer the fundamental question:
Should New Zealand be governed as one democratic nation under one law, or should constitutional authority increasingly be divided according to ancestry and collective tribal status?
That is not a technical question for constitutional lawyers.
It is a question for New Zealanders.
New Zealand already has a constitutional principle of enormous importance: Parliament is elected by the people and accountable to them.
If we want to change that fundamental arrangement, then let's have the courage to say so.
Let's have a genuine constitutional convention. Let's put the competing visions before the public. Let's debate the Treaty texts, parliamentary sovereignty, individual rights, equal citizenship, Māori customary interests, judicial power and the role of international law.
And then, if fundamental change is proposed, let the people decide.
What New Zealand does not need is another layer of constitutional engineering carried out primarily by politicians, lawyers, academics and public institutions while ordinary citizens are expected to discover the consequences after the fact.
The real danger isn't that New Zealand talks too little about its constitution.
It is that we have allowed enormous constitutional questions to be decided without ever having the constitutional debate.
Stability will not come from creating another committee to manage an unresolved argument.
It will come from settling the argument honestly, openly and democratically.
One country. One Parliament. One law. Equal citizenship. And constitutional change decided by the people who live under it.
That would be a constitutional settlement worth defending.
Geoff Parker is a passionate advocate for equal rights and a colour blind society.

21 comments:
Prominent legal identities supported The Voice "yes" vote in Australia. In the beginning the populace went along. However, when the constitutional ramifications were explained to ordinary Australians, the vote was 60% "no".
The trouble in New Zealand is we don't have important issues clearly explained and debated. We have a radical judiciary, a radical MSM and many radical politicians. In Australia the opponents to "The Voice" didn't want racial divide, which would invariably have been the outcome.
It's hard to discuss constitutional change when it's rather difficult to define the NZ constitution. Like its parent system the UK, NZ has no big-C Constitution. A plethora of documents dating back to the 13th century (the bits that haven't been repealed, which in some cases is just a few of many) collectively count as the UK's constitution (small-c), and it cracked me up while studying English law to see different lists of these 'constitutional' sources in various textbooks. NZ's constitution (small-c) too goes back to bits of Magna Carta. There "is no constitutional stability" because there is a huge question mark over what NZ's 'constitution' is. How about sorting that out before we start talking about changing it!
Do not expect transparency. Proper,open debate has been carefully avoided over the past 4 decades. For those seeking tribal rule by 2040, the main priority will be to achieve this goal without wide debate and without respecting citizens' rights . This is the strategy of cultural marxism which is driving this movement.
"Parliament rejected the Bill. Fine. That is democracy."
NO, IT IS NOT!!!
The Treaty Principles Bill called for a referendum which, in a democracy, we would have had.
That people should say such things shows that New Zealanders have been conditioned by propaganda to accept what is obviously not true.
If fundamental constitutional change is proposed, the public should be asked for their agreement to the change. We the People determine how this country works, not some race-based faction and not an impotent Parliament who do not represent us and cannot control the Public Service, including the Police and Armed Forces.
@Barrie Davis, says > “We the People determine how this country works.”
Well, Barrie, we don't, do we? That's rather the point.
For decades, fundamental constitutional changes have been introduced through Parliament, the courts, government departments and public institutions without “we the people” ever being asked whether we actually want the country heading in that direction.
So I agree with you on one thing: it would be bloody good if we the people actually got to determine how this country works.
The word 'democracy' comes from the Greek and means ‘rule by the people’ (Oxford Concise Dictionary of Politics, Iain McLean and Alistair Mc Millan, 2003).
So, if We the People do NOT determine how this country works, then this country is not a democracy.
We need to assert ourselves to ensure that New Zealand IS a democracy and if that includes a little hyperbole as a self-fulfilling prophecy, so be it.
Here is what Ronald Reagan had to say on the topic at the 1992 Republican National Conference:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QXOvMRIM22k
@Barrie Davis 6.58pm, I think you're confusing representative democracy with direct democracy.
New Zealand is a representative democracy: we elect Parliament to make laws and govern on our behalf.
Direct democracy is where we the people vote directly on a particular question, usually through a referendum.
You can certainly argue that fundamental constitutional change should require a referendum — and I would agree that this is worth debating.
But Parliament considering, debating and ultimately rejecting a Bill is still democracy.
The fact that you don't like the decision doesn't make it undemocratic.
Geoff, thank you for your comment. You have presented us with another example of a double bind.
You are saying we have to choose between a 'representative democracy' and a 'direct democracy'.
I am saying, "I'll have both please." Our constitution allows for it and Parliament have had referenda when it suits them in the past, such as on the flag. Other countries, such as Switzerland, also have both.
The double bind is an example of the sort of language I have been cautioning against for some time. You can find out more about these Milton Model language patterns here:
https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2026/01/barrie-davis-copilot-breaking-spell-of.html
and here:
https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2026/02/barrie-davis-with-copilot-using-milton.html
These language patterns are used by politicians, lawyers, journalists and others to trick us into believing falsehoods and deceptions.
I can and do argue that fundamental constitutional change requires a referendum, so that Parliament rejecting a Bill of constitutional import is NOT democracy because it is not 'rule by the people'.
Of course, the other major double bind is Left-Right politics, which is the problem with representative democracy that referenda addresses and which I have considered here under the head 'Projection and the Problem of the Opposites':
https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2024/08/barrie-davis-we-people-find-grail.html
I would be prepared to answer any questions.
Australis is a Federation. State and Commonwealth governments and a bicameral Parliament so they have a Constitution and constitutional lawyers. Therefore they have the people with the expertise to explain how it all works.
@Barrie Davis 10.07am, At the end of the day, Parliament considering, debating and ultimately rejecting a Bill is still democracy.
The fact that you don't like the decision doesn't make it undemocratic.
And endlessly repeating yourself doesn't make you right. If the people don't rule it is not democracy.
@Barrie Davis, Nor does endlessly repeating “IF THE PEOPLE DON'T RULE, IT ISN'T DEMOCRACY” make representative democracy disappear.
We elect Parliament to rule ON OUR BEHALF. That's what representative democracy means.
You can argue for more referendums, BUT YOU CAN'T SIMPLY REDEFINE DEMOCRACY TO EXCLUDE THE SYSTEM NEW ZEALAND ACTUALLY OPERATES UNDER.
Repeating my point does not make it wrong. What is wrong was the Prime Minister refusing us a democratic referendum on the TPB. What is wrong is the lack of a coherent argument to validate your claim in support of the Prime Minister. What is wrong is the denial of the co-governance problem in the run up to the election, which your claim contributes to.
Read the NZCPR Political Party Treaty Policy 2026 and you will see that what is at stake is the viability of New Zealand’s democracy. It identifies a problem which will persist even if National win this election and Christopher Luxon as Prime Minister continues to deny us a referendum to fix it. The TPB could perhaps have permanently resolved that problem and you are supporting Parliament rejecting a referendum on that.
You have a slave-master mentality, with you as the slave. What I am suggesting is that we can delegate the mundane decisions to our representative Parliament while retaining the big constitutional decisions for ourselves. That is rule by the people, which is democracy. Our representative Parliament are in reality our executive public service. That is essentially what Ronald Reagan also said; We the People determine the direction of the car.
It is vitally important we get this right.
@Barrie Davis, you are perfectly entitled to argue that fundamental constitutional changes should require a referendum. I have no problem with that argument.
What I object to is your claim that Parliament rejecting the TPB was “NOT DEMOCRACY.”
Parliament was elected by the people, debated the Bill and rejected it. THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY — WHETHER YOU APPROVE OF THE DECISION OR NOT.
You want to change the rules so that certain constitutional decisions are reserved for direct public vote. Fine. MAKE THAT ARGUMENT. BUT DON'T PRETEND THAT REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY CEASES TO BE DEMOCRACY SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU WANT DIRECT DEMOCRACY AS WELL.
And the “slave-master mentality” insult adds nothing to your argument.
Geoff, you contradict yourself when you write, “Parliament was elected by the people, debated the Bill and rejected it. THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY”. The Treaty Principles Bill was for a referendum to confirm certain Treaty principles, and Parliament stopped that referendum from happening when it voted the Bill down at its second reading. Yet you further write that you have no problem with the argument that “fundamental constitutional changes should require a referendum.” How do you explain that? How do you reconcile that fundamental constitutional changes should require a referendum, but that Parliament can stop such a referendum?
How can that be democracy; that is, ‘rule by the people’? Note also, that “since the people are rarely unanimous, democracy as a descriptive term is synonymous with majority rule.” (Oxford Dictionary of Politics) So, if Parliament stop majority rule, they have stopped democracy. Yet you say, “that is representative democracy.” Irrespective of what sort of democracy it is, you have contradicted an authoritative meaning of ‘democracy’.
Furthermore, you say, “Parliament was elected by the people”. However, the election of a Left or Right Parliament is a double bind which results in us having a Parliament without ever agreeing to that. That is not democracy because there is no real choice. We cannot say ‘No’ but instead have to pick a Parliament out of less than a thousand candidates selected for us by the party bosses out of a population of more than 5 million. That Parliament was elected by the people is irrelevant to the legitimacy of Parliament.
Academic lawyer Philip A. Joseph, in his text Constitutional and Administrative Law in New Zealand, 3rd Edition, 13.6.1, says, due to the Constitution Act 1986, “Parliament’s legislative powers may now have factual rather than legal force.” His argument is that, once Parliament had divorced themselves from the British Crown, they no longer had the power to empower themselves: “Can there exist, in law, a power without a source? To declare the continuance of powers does not constitute or create them.”
That is a rather obvious point: Parliament cannot write rules to empower themselves; that power must come from somewhere else and the only other possible source is We the People. It must be due to a choice in which we are free to say ‘Yes’ or ‘No’ to having a Parliament. Voting for particular candidates does not give us that choice.
To demonstrate that, you only need to follow the money: Parliament gets it power by collecting taxes from the people which Parliament can then spend on, for example a Police force and an Army, which can in turn enforce the will of Parliament if necessary. The people get their money, including their taxes, as a token for providing goods and services. The people do that work due to the life-force; the instinctual drive to live and to reproduce, which Freud called libido. That is the source of all power, other than that by force of arms. Prior to the Constitution Act, the source of power was nominally the British Crown, which had objective hereditary power due to conquest by kings (e.g., William the Conqueror) and subjective fictive power due to mythology (e.g., King Arthur).
Due to the Constitution Act, the New Zealand Crown in Parliament was reduced to a legal fiction and the New Zealand Parliament had no source of sovereign power. The only way to make the New Zealand Parliament legitimate was for the people of New Zealand to vest their power in Parliament. In other words, for us to agree to a representative Parliament to act on our behalf, and that never happened.
What should have happened was Parliament should have passed the Constitution Act 1986 by referendum, much as should have happened for the Treaty Principles Bill. Instead, we are herded like sheep, in part because people like you insist that what Parliament does is legitimate, fair and reasonable. It is not.
You are being right royally rorted, literally Left, Right and centre, and you argue in favour of that.
I am curious to know why?
Barrie, I think you're now arguing for A DIFFERENT CONSTITUTIONAL SYSTEM, rather than demonstrating that the one New Zealand actually has is undemocratic.
You believe fundamental constitutional change should be reserved for direct public approval by referendum. That's a legitimate position to argue for.
But the TPB was still a Bill before Parliament. Parliament debated it and rejected it at its second reading. Under our existing constitutional arrangements, THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY IN OPERATION. The Constitution Act 1986 expressly provides that Parliament has full power to make laws.
You may believe those arrangements should be changed. Fine.
But that is very different from saying Parliament's exercise of its existing constitutional powers is “NOT DEMOCRACY.”
And frankly, once you get into claims about taxation, libido, William the Conqueror and the source of all political power, we've travelled a very long way from the simple question we started with.
Geoff, just because Parliament does it does not mean it is democracy. You did not answer the question and you do not offer an argument. Instead, you yet again repeated your slogan, like a propagandist:
“But the great rule, essential to success in propaganda, of which Hitler thoroughly appreciated the fundamental importance, without knowing anything about conditioned reflexes, was that of repetition. He writes: ‘All the ingenuity employed in the organization of propaganda would have no result if account were not rigorously taken at all times of a fundamental principle: it must confine itself to a few things, and must constantly repeat them. Perseverance … is the first and the most important condition of success’.” (p. 182)
Serge Chakotin, The Rape of the Masses, 1939.
Mr Davis, repeating a position doesn't make it a slogan, and quoting a book about propaganda certainly doesn't prove your argument.
You keep asserting that “IF THE PEOPLE DON'T RULE, IT ISN'T DEMOCRACY.” But that simply assumes your definition of democracy — it doesn't establish it.
New Zealand operates under REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY: the people elect Parliament to exercise legislative power on their behalf. You want fundamental constitutional questions removed from that process and decided by referendum.
That's a legitimate argument for changing the system. IT ISN'T PROOF THAT THE EXISTING SYSTEM IS NOT DEMOCRATIC.
And I'm not going to debate constitutional theory by trading increasingly personal accusations and quotations about propaganda.
Once again we will have to agree to disagree - cheers
Geoff, I do not agree to disagree with you, my established meaning of democracy is taken from an authoritative Oxford dictionary, and your above communications follow a pattern recommended by Adolf Hitler.
It is not just that you are wrong about our Parliament’s application of process, but that in being wrong you are supporting their avoidance of a referendum and thereby advocating for continuance of co-governance development.
When folk read your piece, they may well have taken what you said at face value and not given it much thought. They may consequently have formed a belief that co-governance is unavoidable. That is not acceptable to me.
You yourself acknowledge there is a fundamental problem, which you say is “democratic clarity” saying, “let the people decide”. I have provided that clarity by showing how Parliament have perverted the meaning of democracy and you have obstinately refused to accept it, even though you are quite clearly wrong.
Frankly, I think you would benefit from reading the following:
https://legacy.berea.edu/phi/wp-content/uploads/sites/81/2020/09/On-Bullshit.pdf
Mr Davis, I think we've reached the point where you're no longer arguing about what the current constitutional system is — YOU'RE ARGUING FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE.
You believe fundamental constitutional questions should be decided directly by referendum. Fine. That is a legitimate constitutional position.
But YOU STILL HAVEN'T DEMONSTRATED THAT PARLIAMENT DEBATING AND REJECTING THE TPB WAS “NOT DEMOCRACY” UNDER NEW ZEALAND'S EXISTING SYSTEM OF REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT.
You have simply REPEATED THAT ASSERTION AND BUILT YOUR ARGUMENT AROUND IT.
Nor does quoting Hitler on propaganda make my position propaganda, any more than quoting an Oxford dictionary makes your interpretation of democracy automatically correct.
And for the record, I have never argued that co-governance is “unavoidable”. Quite the opposite. The whole purpose of my article was to argue that fundamental constitutional change should be openly debated and, WHERE APPROPRIATE, PUT TO THE PEOPLE.
WE CLEARLY DISAGREE ABOUT HOW THAT SHOULD BE ACHIEVED.
That's a legitimate disagreement.
Calling me a propagandist because I don't accept your constitutional theory DOESN'T STRENGTHEN YOUR ARGUMENT — IT JUST CHANGES THE SUBJECT.
Once again this image seems appropriate in your case > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xP591bQVXAujMdqVhlO1xbT_0CsH5MBx/view?usp=drive_link
We seem to be at the Humpty Dumpty stage where words mean what the speaker says they mean, no more and no less. So let's draw the line here.
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