This is not Europe, where they're overrun with migrant boats and expensive hotel bills to house the passengers.
This is not the US, where illegal migrants poured across a porous border.
This is New Zealand, separated from the rest of the world by the Pacific Ocean and rather fussy about who comes here and why.
If you look at the numbers, they tell you we're doing a good job on migration.
- Kiwi migrants are, according to a New Zealand Initiative report:Less likely to claim a benefit
- More likely to be employed
- Their children have better education outcomes than native born New Zealanders
The idea they steal jobs from Kiwis doesn't stack up because an economy doesn't have a cap on the number of jobs available. Job growth happens when demand increases and migration = increased demand. Plus they're more likely to take intuitive and start businesses which employ people.
Migrants also tend to be younger, so contribute more to taxes than native born Kiwis. They also do jobs many think they're above doing – just look at those on the dole in the regions.
Housing and hospitals can be a problem, but that's a job that can be fixed with better planning laws, fewer regulations, and investment in health.
So back to Matua Shane and his butter chicken tsunami – actually, the India FTA, as far as we can tell, would allow just 5000 three-year visas at any one time. That's according to the Government.
That's just 6% of Accredited Employer Work Visas issued each year.
90% will come here for jobs we have shortages in: engineers, IT professionals, teachers.
This looks like a bit of a beat up from Uncle Shane. As for the "colourful" language, actually, most Kiwis don't mind a bit of butter chicken thank you very much.
Ryan Bridge is a New Zealand broadcaster who has worked on many current affairs television and radio shows. He currently hosts Newstalk ZB's Early Edition - where this article was sourced.
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A virtue of Indian immigarnts is that they do not identify with idle or with dictatorial maori and can match maori for multiplication.But many do seem to share a contempt for colonists. However it is absurd that we import low skills like drivers. Shane''s language is refrshingly different and he does get carried away..But at least the masses get to hear and they do understand. Incidentally is buttered chicken actually a traditional dish?
Glossing over the housing, hospitals and transport issues, saying they can be fixed is not the same as having a plan to fix them and implementing it.
Infrastructure is NZ's Achilles heel and governments are not addressing it.
Ryan, how do you know what is in the agreement if no-one has been told? What the spokespeople have said is spin. They should be transparent if they want us to trust them with this.
Shane is right to spotlight this. Maybe he has actually read the proposed agreement. We just dont know what we would get. It may be too late once we have it signed off.
Too many kiwis on a benefit rather than have a job. Which many migrants and RSE workers are more than happy to take.
I have many interactions with migrants RSE's and those on working Visas.
Most in the latter category have better English and elocution (as a second language!!) than many "natural born kiwis" and ALL have stronger work ethic than the vast majority of kiwis particularly compared to those who suffer from the debilitating affliction of "tribalism on the brain".
There is no room for "dead wood" in the society and culture from where they come.
Butter Chicken, Green or Red Curry whatever your preference of dish.
They are certainly more appealing than the local anti-colonial narrative OR gastronomic options BOTH flavored by damp sack and earthworms.
Indians or any others who come here and denounce the white ''colonists'' and their descendants need to be reminded that they are latter-day colonisers by definition as they are not Maori and are adding to the dilution of the (now) part-Maori as a percentage of the population. I hear ''correct speak'' from white-guilt British who come here and seem to think that by arriving now they are not ''colonisers''. I remind them they are here courtesy of ''coloniser'' governments in the eyes of ''Maori'' hardlinersand white fellow travellers and if they wish to be virtuous they should go home.
Buttered chicken is not a traditional Indian meal. It is an Indian-style western creation, as is Tikka Masala. A lot of our Asian foods in restaurants here have been tweaked (for western tastes apparently) or is fusion. I enjoyed my working life in Asia for 14 years, in part because of the availability of authentic food .
I have been working until recently in a mental ward for 4 years and the place would be at a standstill if there were no Indian, Filipino and other migrant staff. One day of the 17 staff on the shift 14 were from outside NZ.
It is actually interesting to read the "comments", both here and in other print media re the NZ - India FTA.
Sadly, I agree, there are "some matters" not being disclosed, but that is par for the course with National at the moment - just look at what "committees/enquiries" that have been established but are held behind "the velvet curtain" and the 'reports' will be -
- shrouded in mystery
- heavily redacted for MSM to read & report on
- archived (with no one seeing anything) for 30 years.
The People of India have been arriving here for many years.
Thus I saw unto you -
- do they squat in a house and do nothing
- how many business have they "taken over' or established and run (with family) successfully
- how many Kiwi's do the same thing?
If one looks at our History of establishing a business, how many are -
- still operated by a New Zealander
- been brough and are now operated by an overseas company.
If you look at what Maoridom are doing business wise, you may be amazed at what they has achieved - and yes there is "questions" re money gained vs tax paid!
The interesting point about the NZ - India FTA, it is the first I know of, that has an immigration clause in it - so who "rolled over" to allow that?
It's election year and Winston and Shane now have the amusing job of making it appear they are not, in fact, part of the government. But they are! It’s wild.
Don't forget the truck license scam, or the drivers license scam. Just saying.
Of course NZ's economy would weaken--maybe not collapse--without migrants. The hospital sector would be destroyed. We'd have no dairies--because, apparently, running a dairy is too challenging for Kiwis. Entrepreneurial Kiwis want to leave the country. Many of the rest want, basically, cushy government jobs without much competition or pressure to produce. Who will be the next generation of farmers? What will NZ produce in the future that the world wants?
So much rubbish talked about this issue Ryan - you sound just like the European elites currently destroying the UK and Europe through uncontrolled mass migration. Most recent migrants to NZ are of low IQ and low ability, and are filling jobs of little economic benefit, or jobs that could be filled by NZ'ers if we had proper benefit sanctions. There's a huge number of immigration scams operating bringing in very poor quality immigrants. Also NZ's per-capita GDP is falling as a result - this is the metric that really matters. As a country we are becoming net-worse off, not better. I simply don't believe those stats you quote Ryan - time and again economists have been shown to be ridiculously unrealistic about immigration: https://www.notonyourteam.co.uk/p/the-failure-of-economists
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