The much underestimated Ronald Reagan was, befitting his career as a broadcaster and actor, a master of the put-down line.
During a debate against Democratic opponent Walter Mondale in the 1984 election campaign, Mondale had the temerity to raise the issue of the incumbent president’s age. Reagan at the time was 73 and Mondale, a former vice-president and senator, 56.
Reagan retorted “I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent’s youth and inexperience.”
Even Mondale laughed at that one en route to Reagan winning the largest Electoral College majority (525 to 13) in US presidential election history.
Reagan’s line came to mind as this interregnum between the election and the formation of a government is being filled with various political puff pieces. One featured three members of so-called Generation Z making it to the House of Representatives.
(To save you looking it up, Generation Z was born between January 1, 1997 and December 31, 2012)
The three youngsters profiled were Te Pati Maori’s Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke, who is 21, and 26-year-olds Tamatha Paul from the Greens and and National’s Tom Rutherford.
If it is truly to be a House of Representatives then there can never be any complaints about having a smattering of youngsters across the 123 seats.
Far be it from this ageing baby-boomer to put a dampener on the enthusiasm of youth, but I suspect the reporting of these youngsters’ imminent arrivals in the halls of power is more a reflection of the age and generation of today’s political reporters than of actual and likely reality.
According to the (most likely) Gen Z journalists, this age group “has expressed significant changes in thinking on issues such as the environment, race relations and gender. It’s a generation which has challenged traditional ways of working, living and thinking about social issues.”
Which is all very well. But hasn’t every younger generation thought differently about the world compared to their parents and grandparents? Is the way some twenty-somethings think about the world in 2023 markedly different to the way those born in the 1950s were looking at the world of the 1970s?
In other words, every generation brings new thinking to their view of the world and can’t be convinced that the way it was, and is, should be the way forward.
Therefore we have many of a younger generation today believing that the planet will burn itself out unless we stop driving diesel utes and farming dairy cows; a younger generation which believes that you can be a woman just because you say you are and a generation that thinks working for a living and being productive is just an option.
But then the 1950s-born kids thought war was pointless and New Zealand shouldn’t get involved in other people’s fights – unless it was South Africa, although you look at that place now and think was it really worth it? We also won the battle against nuclear testing, were the first to raise environmental awareness and were open minded enough to realise that the Treaty of Waitangi had been dishonoured and recompense was required.
Children born in the 1960s and 70s and 80s all faced their issues as teenagers and young adults too. In other words, being born from 1997 onwards is not in any way special, and as these Gen Z-ers will find out, one’s thinking and attitudes to issues and life may well change with maturity over time.
As Churchill may have once said, “if you’re not a socialist at 20 you don’t have a heart. If you’re not a capitalist at 40 you don’t have a head.”
At any rate, being elected as an MP in your 20s is not that unusual. The better questions are how did that young person perform in the job, was it a long term career and did they leave any legacy?
Here’s a random call of youthful MPs from the last 50 years.
1. Marilyn Waring: Elected as the National Party MP for Raglan in 1975 at age 23. She lasted 9 years, was outed as being gay, never made Cabinet and fell out with Prime Minister Rob Muldoon over nuclear disarmament. She did the country a huge favour by promising to vote against her party’s government which brought on the 1984 snap election. Left politics for a successful life academia.
2. Richard Prebble: Won Auckland Central in 1975 for Labour at age 27. Spent nine years in opposition before being part of the most reforming and influential government since World War 2. Left Labour to form Act and in all spent 27 years in politics. A young man of the 1970s whose imprint is still being felt today.
3. Bill English: Became MP for Wallace in 1990 at age 28. One of the country’s better Ministers of Finance and potentially the best long term Prime Minister the country never had. Although a fiscal conservative, his approach to welfare based on actual need and social investment was a path the country should have followed after his departure in 2018. A long and successful career which still had some distance to run when he quit.
4. Deborah Morris: A name for the trivia quizzes. Became the country’s youngest ever Cabinet Minister in 1996 as a 26 year old list MP with New Zealand First who was then made Minster for Youth Affairs. Lasted two years before falling out with Winston Peters. Never completed her only parliamentary term.
5. Mike Moore: Originally the MP for Eden in 1972 at age 23. A free thinking and high profile Labour MP who championed the country’s export potential – lamburgers anyone? – he finally ascended to the Prime Minister’s office for six shambolic weeks before the 1990 election. He led the Labour Party till 1993 before retiring first to the back benches and then to diplomatic and World Trade roles. He died at 71 after a career that will always be described as colourful.
6. Todd Barclay: MP for Clutha-Southland from 2014 to 2017. He was 24 when elected, but quickly fell out with local electorate staff who had worked with the previous MP Bill English for over 20 years. He didn’t stand again in 2017 when clandestine recordings of conversations with his staff were revealed. A political failure.
There are numerous others I could refer to as MPs making their debut before age thirty. Some names are well known - Phil Goff, Jacinda Ardern and Simeon Brown. Others like Darryn Hughes left under a large question mark. Simon Upton started at 23, lasted 20 years and went on to a career in environment protection and advocacy. The jury is out on Chloe Swarbrick, already into her third term and still in her twenties.
So an arrival at parliament as a youngster actually tells us nothing about the MP’s likely impact and legacy. The feature of success stories above – English, Moore and Prebble – is adaptability. They became MPs as young firebrands but learnt quickly to play the political game and therefore achieved significant legacies.
The three Gen Z-ers in the current intake could do worse than to learn those lessons of the not too distant past.
The parliamentary Press Gallery could also do well to remember them and not be star struck by the promise of youth.
Peter Williams was a writer and broadcaster for half a century. Now watching from the sidelines. Peter blogs regularly on Peter’s Substack - where this article was sourced.
Reagan retorted “I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent’s youth and inexperience.”
Even Mondale laughed at that one en route to Reagan winning the largest Electoral College majority (525 to 13) in US presidential election history.
Reagan’s line came to mind as this interregnum between the election and the formation of a government is being filled with various political puff pieces. One featured three members of so-called Generation Z making it to the House of Representatives.
(To save you looking it up, Generation Z was born between January 1, 1997 and December 31, 2012)
The three youngsters profiled were Te Pati Maori’s Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke, who is 21, and 26-year-olds Tamatha Paul from the Greens and and National’s Tom Rutherford.
If it is truly to be a House of Representatives then there can never be any complaints about having a smattering of youngsters across the 123 seats.
Far be it from this ageing baby-boomer to put a dampener on the enthusiasm of youth, but I suspect the reporting of these youngsters’ imminent arrivals in the halls of power is more a reflection of the age and generation of today’s political reporters than of actual and likely reality.
According to the (most likely) Gen Z journalists, this age group “has expressed significant changes in thinking on issues such as the environment, race relations and gender. It’s a generation which has challenged traditional ways of working, living and thinking about social issues.”
Which is all very well. But hasn’t every younger generation thought differently about the world compared to their parents and grandparents? Is the way some twenty-somethings think about the world in 2023 markedly different to the way those born in the 1950s were looking at the world of the 1970s?
In other words, every generation brings new thinking to their view of the world and can’t be convinced that the way it was, and is, should be the way forward.
Therefore we have many of a younger generation today believing that the planet will burn itself out unless we stop driving diesel utes and farming dairy cows; a younger generation which believes that you can be a woman just because you say you are and a generation that thinks working for a living and being productive is just an option.
But then the 1950s-born kids thought war was pointless and New Zealand shouldn’t get involved in other people’s fights – unless it was South Africa, although you look at that place now and think was it really worth it? We also won the battle against nuclear testing, were the first to raise environmental awareness and were open minded enough to realise that the Treaty of Waitangi had been dishonoured and recompense was required.
Children born in the 1960s and 70s and 80s all faced their issues as teenagers and young adults too. In other words, being born from 1997 onwards is not in any way special, and as these Gen Z-ers will find out, one’s thinking and attitudes to issues and life may well change with maturity over time.
As Churchill may have once said, “if you’re not a socialist at 20 you don’t have a heart. If you’re not a capitalist at 40 you don’t have a head.”
At any rate, being elected as an MP in your 20s is not that unusual. The better questions are how did that young person perform in the job, was it a long term career and did they leave any legacy?
Here’s a random call of youthful MPs from the last 50 years.
1. Marilyn Waring: Elected as the National Party MP for Raglan in 1975 at age 23. She lasted 9 years, was outed as being gay, never made Cabinet and fell out with Prime Minister Rob Muldoon over nuclear disarmament. She did the country a huge favour by promising to vote against her party’s government which brought on the 1984 snap election. Left politics for a successful life academia.
2. Richard Prebble: Won Auckland Central in 1975 for Labour at age 27. Spent nine years in opposition before being part of the most reforming and influential government since World War 2. Left Labour to form Act and in all spent 27 years in politics. A young man of the 1970s whose imprint is still being felt today.
3. Bill English: Became MP for Wallace in 1990 at age 28. One of the country’s better Ministers of Finance and potentially the best long term Prime Minister the country never had. Although a fiscal conservative, his approach to welfare based on actual need and social investment was a path the country should have followed after his departure in 2018. A long and successful career which still had some distance to run when he quit.
4. Deborah Morris: A name for the trivia quizzes. Became the country’s youngest ever Cabinet Minister in 1996 as a 26 year old list MP with New Zealand First who was then made Minster for Youth Affairs. Lasted two years before falling out with Winston Peters. Never completed her only parliamentary term.
5. Mike Moore: Originally the MP for Eden in 1972 at age 23. A free thinking and high profile Labour MP who championed the country’s export potential – lamburgers anyone? – he finally ascended to the Prime Minister’s office for six shambolic weeks before the 1990 election. He led the Labour Party till 1993 before retiring first to the back benches and then to diplomatic and World Trade roles. He died at 71 after a career that will always be described as colourful.
6. Todd Barclay: MP for Clutha-Southland from 2014 to 2017. He was 24 when elected, but quickly fell out with local electorate staff who had worked with the previous MP Bill English for over 20 years. He didn’t stand again in 2017 when clandestine recordings of conversations with his staff were revealed. A political failure.
There are numerous others I could refer to as MPs making their debut before age thirty. Some names are well known - Phil Goff, Jacinda Ardern and Simeon Brown. Others like Darryn Hughes left under a large question mark. Simon Upton started at 23, lasted 20 years and went on to a career in environment protection and advocacy. The jury is out on Chloe Swarbrick, already into her third term and still in her twenties.
So an arrival at parliament as a youngster actually tells us nothing about the MP’s likely impact and legacy. The feature of success stories above – English, Moore and Prebble – is adaptability. They became MPs as young firebrands but learnt quickly to play the political game and therefore achieved significant legacies.
The three Gen Z-ers in the current intake could do worse than to learn those lessons of the not too distant past.
The parliamentary Press Gallery could also do well to remember them and not be star struck by the promise of youth.
Peter Williams was a writer and broadcaster for half a century. Now watching from the sidelines. Peter blogs regularly on Peter’s Substack - where this article was sourced.
8 comments:
The jury is out on Chloe Swarbrick?! To quote the great Statesman and all-round political genius, Simon Bridges, she's "effing useless".
Come on, now ! Chloe Swarbrick reminds me of my first year at Uni and the Hustings -- extremely childish. Swarbrick maybe in her third term in parliament but she is still the same immature creature she was when she entered first time. And for a NZ MP to call for the obliteration of Israel ? She should have been frog-marched out of the Beehive. Ask yourself a question: is she the type of person who should represents New Zealand ? No way. Only the foolish young woke people voted for her. And that's why the Greens want to lower the voting age --- nothing to do with the high moral tone of extended enfranchisement that the Greens continue to bleat.
If ignorance provides right of passage to parliament then Chloe Swarbrick has that in spades as she publicly chanted her support for those that carried out the terror attack.
The first suggestion that Hamas terrorists committed acts of extreme sexual violence and rape against victims during their Oct. 7 rampage through southern Israel came on social media early on that fateful Saturday morning six weeks ago.
Two short videos, shared by the terrorists themselves, quickly emerged showing groups of cheering Palestinian men, some armed, in the streets of Gaza crowding around half-naked and bloodied young Israeli women.
In one clip, a woman later identified as German-Israeli citizen Shani Louk, 22, can be seen barely clothed lying unconscious in an unnatural position on the flatbed of a pickup as men spit and abuse her body while screaming "Allahu Akhbar."
In another video, 19-year-old Israeli soldier Na’ama Levy is pulled from the back of a jeep by an armed gunman, her hands bound behind her back and thick blood stains between her legs, as Palestinian men jeer at her.
Yes Peter while you say Todd Barclay was a failure it is interesting to note that the main person who caused his problems is now one of the main teouble makers for the Gore Mayor, maybe she doesnt like young people achieving.But they all should be given a fair chance.
For my money Mike Moore is top of the heap. He was an outstanding head of the World Trade Organisation, and sadly only served half a term as at that time is was a shared role.
An interesting article, as only Peter Williams can write.
Also interesting comments - mainly "poking the fingers at Chloe Swarbrick", who if any one has seen past TV even print interviews, she apparently has an issue with an "attention deficit disorder" - this was disclosed by Chloe herself.
if you think that Chloe had a conniption on Palestine, how many people here in NZ know that Jeremy Corbyn - former Leader of UK Labour Party, has for many years been an open supporter of both Hamas & Hezbollah and has only of recent 'decided' to condemn them , which one wonders if it comes after being "lambasted by Piers Morgan, live on TV -UK, on this very issue"?
Book - Dangerous Hero, by Tom Bower - all about Master Corbyn - a must read.
Two points if I can add -
1/- this Country (NZ) is not being served good news on the Palestine/Israel confrontation - and this can be seen with TVNZ and their use of the BBC - who have demonstrated in the UK as having a bias toward Palestine -
2/ - if one is looking for a better news factor on above, go to YouTube and seek out any report by Douglas Murray - also while you are there search for the Blog John Anderson (former Dep PM of Australia) who interviewed Douglas Murray of the current Middle East issue - it goes for an hour, and is worth watching.
Finally what is of concern, not begrudging "new & younger faces" into Parliament, is that they are swayed by people of their own age to look and introduce Bills to The House that, both allow changes to voting age - farming- industry - community based on nefarious data, they have seen/read & misunderstood from social media outlets.
I thought the same thing when I read the article. Here is another 'how wonderful it is to see such young MP's elected' but so what. It is what you do once elected that actually counts.
Deborah Morris was actually a minister of youth affairs (very bottom of the ministerial pecking list) outside of Cabinet and not a Cabinet Minister, plus she was elected on the list vote. I recall she didn't leave with Winston when the coalition between Winston and Jenny Shipley broke down. She described her decision at the time as being in keeping with her principles. Considering she was a list MP who owed her election to the NZ Party list, this was hardly in keeping with the principles of a list MP who represents the party only, so she was a total hypocrite. The only thing she is memorable for was briefly being the youngest ever minister and noting else.
I live in Chloe's electorate - never seen her. When Nikki Kaye won the seat. she became the only aspiring MP to actually knock on my door for a chat about her vision for NZ. I'm pleased she KO'd Ardern once or twice.
Post election, I have been horrified to find out that Ardern's mob manipulated the rules to permit enrolment at the polling booth, on the day, without ID or proof of address. I'd suggest that today's sbowflakes would be up for that. Too onerous to pre-enrol like those of us who really care. Maybe the elctoral commission should offer KFC to prove one's genuine.
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