The MPs argue that their request for a joint hearing, the inclusion of a “tikanga expert”, and representation by chosen senior counsel were unfairly denied.
While Collins said that only the committee can alter the schedule, she noted the hearing may be closed to the public.
Green Party members support the incorporation of tikanga Māori in parliamentary processes, with Marama Davidson and Ricardo Menendez March advocating for “cultural respect” and reform of “outdated rules”.
In contrast, ACT leader David Seymour slammed the MPs’ absence, suggesting their pay be cut to ensure compliance, while Prime Minister Christopher Luxon stressed the need for rule enforcement to maintain parliamentary order.
Daily Telegraph New Zealand (DTNZ) is an independent news website, first published in October 2021. - where this article was sourced.
Green Party members support the incorporation of tikanga Māori in parliamentary processes, with Marama Davidson and Ricardo Menendez March advocating for “cultural respect” and reform of “outdated rules”.
In contrast, ACT leader David Seymour slammed the MPs’ absence, suggesting their pay be cut to ensure compliance, while Prime Minister Christopher Luxon stressed the need for rule enforcement to maintain parliamentary order.
Daily Telegraph New Zealand (DTNZ) is an independent news website, first published in October 2021. - where this article was sourced.
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It's basically anarchy isn't it? This has been brewing for a pretty long time. TPM are always pushing the boundaries and don't seem to be in parliament to represent their voters, but rather themselves. This is what happens with bullies, they just keep attacking. They need to be confronted and not subjected to constant appeasement. How serious do the infringements need to be? Luxon? Brownlee? Show some spine.
Note that the Waitangi Tribunal demanded that Karen Chhour: appear before it plus other virulent impositions without any legal rights.
What sheer bloody hypocrisy ?
This from Te Parti Maori who can't be bothered completing the electoral paperwork ( are they worried about the public seeing the discrepancies?)
Are we going to allow Maori to ignore the law ?
Or fabricate more tikanga law when it's convenient?
The change back to democracy and one nation - New Zealand starts in 2025 and must be assisted by everyone . This maorism is OK for maori at home , as Dutch wear clogs and Norwegians frolic from the sauna to the snow, elsewhere in NZ let us have some sanity.
This intentional behaviour, is typical of those minority Maori bent on exploiting Western decency, order, and law. For far too long, Europeans have bent over backwards to be accommodating. Now its crunch point. They wanna fight to the death...... Put them in gaol on bread and water for six months holiday.... We are totally sick of them...
This is ridiculous. Each one of us needs to own our behaviour, be us citizens or members of parliament. Accountability is necessary, and this is a standard procedure to ensure discussion. Refusing to show is the behaviour expected of a child not an adult. Show up, or be removed from parliament proceedings and from financial renumeration for the days absent. There cannot be different rules for different groups of people. I am sick of the victim game that is constantly played.
Yes - all of the above. If they are not going to play by the rules, they should be banned from the house and their pay cut immediately. I suspect that will bring them to heel all too soon enough. And, if they still refuse, then the Maori seats should be abolished - which they should be anyway, and we would be shot of all this nonsense and their blatant racism. When is our Govt going to grow a spine, or does it just exist to appease?
Given the Tea Party (mis)behaviour today Judith Collins should simply rescind the 2nd chance to appear offer as that is just kicking the can down the road. The Privileges Committee should be reconvened to decide on the penatlies to be delivered upon these transgressors - and it better be meaningful if the committee and Parliament's processes are to have any credibility with us the paying public (Hmm on reflection that might be a first ...?). A week in the stocks with bread and water once daily should suffice. Shame there is no whipping stool any more. One wonders what the situation would be in Singapore, 50 lashes? In all seriousness though, I wonder when the government will see sense and reinstate sedition into the Crimes Act since it is the falling standards that has allowed all the nonsense to appear?
One would ponder, if the current ' song & dance (including extending the tongue) ' over all things white is a [possible] recap of what their forebears may have done in January 1840 prior to the signing of the TOW, at that point they found " out " that once they placed - scratch, cross, a Tribal Mark, a signature - that after midnight 6 February 1840, they would be subject to White Man Law? And the White man Police would have something to say about their behavior in " a public space ".
I wonder if there was a Tamatha Paul living then??
Indeed. Brownlee is clearly fed up with them. Just see his face. These kids need a real spanking. Smacked botties all of them in TPM
Ooooh...... Stocks in central Wellington. Love it....
YESSSSS... Sedition has been culled from Crimes Act... stupidly.... ? by Labour????
So after the short reprieve for TPM to comply, what will Luxon do? ( or instruct Ms Collins to do? Will she agree?)
Is this Luxon's Waterloo?
Luxon will be instructing Collins - but needs to be careful. She has seen a lot and may defy him. NZ 's democracy is in the balance.
I've posted some of this before but I now feel we need to be pestering our MPs to bring this back to the Crimes Act. Sedition ... It is kinda anomalous that in 2007 the Govt of the Day moved to repeal sedition laws, done under the guise of protecting democracy and free speech - no joke this is what they said then! The third reading is interesting: https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/document/48HansD_20071024_00000979/crimes-repeal-of-seditious-offences-amendment-bill - Winston Peters and Ron Mark made some good points. Who was heading the Law Commission that recommended the repeal? Sir Geoffrey Palmer. Yep, him again - thanks for the blessed nebulous, non-existent principles of the Treaty by the way Sir! Then not so long ago, we were Jacinda'd with the threat of hate speech laws. So much for protecting Freedom of Speech. BTW, these words were uttered by Winston Peters during that 3rd reading "example, inciting racial disharmony is not really the core of the sedition legislation. Sedition is about the promoting of rebellion and anarchic acts that have nothing to do with democracy or a vote, but, rather, to supersede the will of the people—"
... So, am I alone in thinking we could well do with the sedition laws again to deal with certain elements that have emerged and that blatantly seek to subvert the will of the people? Let's get stuck in and ask our MPs to do this.
So it was 2007 that sedition was culled. Not a good idea, Judith Collins needs to have it restored urgently ... with retrospective options too. TPM needs to be thorougly scorched for their bullying and denigrating democracy.
2007 Labour Party in Gummint. Helen Clark PM.... says it all!
As suggested elsewhere in the comments, there should be no second chance. Dock their pay and expell them from Parliament until they agree to appear before the Committee. They have no comeback as they signed up to the rules when they were sworn in. Speaker is asleep at the wheel, again
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