Saturday, December 23, 2023

Breaking Views Update: Week of 17.12.23

Saturday December 23, 2023 

Hapū interests undermined in RMA roll back

Te Pāti Māori says the removal of the term hapū from new resource management legislation erodes the rights and interests of mana whenua.

The party voted against the law to repeal the Natural and Built Environment Act and the Spatial Planning Act and go back to the 1991 RMA while new legislation is drafted.

Te Pāti Māori co-leader Debbie Ngarewa-Packer says the removal of hapū breaches the crown’s obligations....
See full article HERE

Reti aims for 95% herd immunity for tamariki Māori
“So we know we want to get towards 95 percent herd immunity, that’s the end goal and there’s quite a big gap between 70 percent we start with today and 95 so we are figuring out how we can close that in a way that is achievable. We’ll set yearly parameters as to how to narrow that gap and targets that we’ll expect out providers to meet,” Minister Reti says.....
See full article HERE

Peters promises back to basics Māori policies
New Zealand First leader Winston Peters says the new Government is going to deliver for Māori rather than just talk about it.

“We’ll go back to the basics and start looking at figures like truancy, getting our young Māori back to school, getting them a better education, getting them the skills to get a driver’s licence, all the fundamental things that helped us when we were young people,” Mr Peters says.....
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Crown opposition to Waitangi Tribunal inquiry is 'blatant disregard' of Treaty principles - advocates
Māori health advocates say a Crown memo opposing an urgent Waitangi Tribunal inquiry demonstrates a 'blatant disregard' of Te Tiriti o Waitangi principles.

Lady Moxon said the Crown response "signifies a systematic breakdown of the principles outlined in Te Tiriti o Waitangi across all government levels."....
See full article HERE

Te Matatini Welcomes Government Pledge To Kapa Haka
Te Matatini Chairperson Ta Selwyn Parata and Chief Executive Carl Ross have welcomed the reassurance from the new Government to honour its commitment to foster the love of kapa haka within the regions and to fund the premier bi-annual Te Matatini kapa haka event.

Carl Ross says the endorsement recognises the positive impact that kapa haka has on our society and shows how the cultural art form is embraced by all New Zealanders.

The Minister of Finance, Nicola Willis, presented the mini budget earlier this week, and was asked if the Government would still fund Te Matatini. She confirmed that Te Matatini will get the money it needs and she will not be breaking that commitment.....
See full article HERE

Culture matters, as does having hope

Toitū Te Tiriti: Ria Hall, Troy Kingi, Te Kuru Dewes’ Treaty waiata challenges Government  

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Friday December 22, 2023 

New study to create national plan for spiritual care 
In what is believed to be a first for New Zealand, researchers are about to begin a bicultural study aimed at creating a national action plan for spiritual care in the health system, using indigenous approaches.

Study co-leader and University of Otago preventive and social medicine researcher Associate Prof Richard Egan said little was known about spiritual care in New Zealand healthcare.

The study has been granted $1.4million in the latest Health Research Council funding round, and aims to develop national recommendations and an action plan for spiritual care.

"For Māori, wairua or spirituality is often considered ‘the most essential requirement for health’, and this research will work in a bicultural way to better understand Māori spiritual care needs in a system that is inequitable based on current outcomes."....
See full article HERE

$50 million booster for Māori immunisation
Health Minister, Shane Reti, has today announced a two-year $50 million package to help Māori health providers lift immunisation rates.

Launching the programme in Porirua today, Dr Reti says low immunisation rates put tamariki at particular risk of life threatening – and in some cases deadly – illness.

“We have a shared determination to make a difference for our most vulnerable,” said the Minister.....
See full article HERE

Name chosen for museum, art gallery’s storage facility
A name has been given to the building holding many treasures of the Southland Museum & Art Gallery.

The storage facility at Tisbury will be called Te Pataka Taoka Southern Regional Collections Facility.....
See full article HERE

Port of Auckland celebrates first te reo Māori graduates
Sixteen staff from across the Port of Auckland have completed a Rumaki Reo course with the graduation ceremony being held at Auckland University’s Waipapa Marae in the first week of December.

They were joined by others from the New Zealand Police and AMA Training Group, an NZQA accredited private training establishment, who delivered the programme. The te reo Māori learning programme consisted of weekly onsite classroom sessions and is designed for people new to the language.

Pepeha, sentence structures, waiata and karakia made up the core of the curriculum.

Paul White, Manager – Māori Outcomes Port of Auckland said the programme is a meaningful example of whanaungatanga, which is a key pillar of the port’s ‘Regaining Our Mana’ strategy.

As a council-owned organisation, Port of Auckland has a responsibility to establish and implement a Māori outcomes framework that recognises the Treaty of Waitangi and aligns with Auckland Council’s Māori outcomes programme ‘Kia Ora Tāmaki Makaurau’......
See full article HERE

'They're there to stay': Landowner puts boulders across popular beach road
Eru Smith put the boulders across the Domain Reserve Rd this week.

The sealed road crosses privately-owned land that has been in Smith’s family for generations.

He said his whānau had never received any payment for the use of the land and “I’ve been in dispute with the [Hastings District] council about this for at least 30 years”.....
See full article HERE

Trick or Treaty? Indigenous Rights, Referendums and the Treaty of Waitangi

No Smoke without Fire  

Thursday December 21, 2023 

ACT, NZ First hesitant to criticise National over 'Kāinga Ora' name 
Coalition partners NZ First and ACT say "Kāinga Ora" should be called "Homes and Communities", but do not appear eager to criticise National over continuing to use the old name.

The National-NZ First coalition agreement demands that the government "ensure all public service departments have their primary name in English, except for those specifically related to Māori".

Housing Minister Chris Bishop on Monday announced an independent review into social housing agency Kāinga Ora, referring to it by that name rather than its English name "Homes and Communities"......
See full article HERE

Less than half of students went to class regularly in term three
Māori and Pacific students had the lowest regular attendance rates at 34%. For Pākehā students, the rate was 48% and for Asian students 58%.....
See full article HERE

Speed drop to tackle Oneroa beach threat
The co-governance body for Te-Oneroa-a-Tōhe – Ninety Mile Beach has set new speed limits ahead of the expected rush of thousands of holidaymakers.

Te Oneroa-a-Tōhe Beach Board includes representatives from four far north iwi, and well as the Far North District Council and Northland Regional Council.

The speed close to the beach access ramps has been set at 30 kilometres an hour, and for the rest of the beach the maximum is 60 kilometres an hour instead of the previous 100......
See full article HERE

Christopher Luxon's reo Māori lessons cost taxpayers $4150

The prime minister's office has confirmed his te reo Māori lessons when he was leader of the opposition cost about $4000.

However, it later emerged he had received his own lessons in te reo Māori, which had been paid for by the opposition leader's budget, which is publicly funded.

Other National Party MPs also admitted to having lessons paid for by the taxpayer.....
See full article HERE

Reo Māori not taking second place
The chair of Wellington’s Māori language board, Te Kaiwhakapūmau i Te Reo Māori, says any order by Government ministers for officials and departments to cut back on the use of te reo is illegal and should not stand.

Piripi Walker says the language is protected by having official status, so it can’t be pushed back into a secondary position.....
See full article HERE

School mural shows area’s whakapapa
The mural was a joint project with Hokonui Runanga, which gave advice on what should be painted.

In the first panel a Maori wind instrument refers to the lament O Nuku.

The next panel shows the Waikaka Stream and the food sources there, the third the fish found in the Mataura River and the last panel shows the Hokonui Hills and the taniwha Matamata....
See full article HERE

Summer reading: A year of rangatiranga and regression

How Te Aute College shaped the man - and the Māori - I am today - Tama Potaka

The government appears to be arguing with itself about te reo

Health Minister Dr Shane Reti's iwi makes public appeal for him to stop the scrapping of smokefree laws

Government of the undone says Tangaere-Manuel

Shane Jones' 'pixie-like' hapū comment labelled arrogant by iwi

Over-promising Government Under Delivering For Aotearoa

Iwi calls on Reti, Peters, Costello to halt Smokefree repeal – Health Coalition Aotearoa

Māori leader angry over call to scrap Te Mana o te Wai freshwater principles  

Wednesday December 20, 2023 

Crown acknowledges it did not consult Treaty partner on axing of Māori Health Authority 
The Crown has opposed an urgent bid to the Waitangi Tribunal to stop government plans to disestablish Te Aka Whai Ora, the Māori Health Authority.

Wai 3307 claimants said the Crown was supposed to work with Māori to change that, but had not.

The Crown response acknowledged it had not consulted with its Treaty partner on its decision to disestablish the authority.

It said the decision was made at a political level following parties campaigning on the issue ahead of the recent General Election.

The Crown accepted more support was needed to address poor health outcomes for Māori but argued the Māori Health Authority was not the only way to do so.....
See full article HERE

Myers Park opens first stage of new artwork - unique in New Zealand, if not the world
At the northern end of the park, they’ll see a shimmering of aqua blue light beneath the underpass and feel the emotion of mana whenua artistry in a contemporary form they might never have experienced before.

Named Waimahara, this new artwork will seek to awaken the senses of visitors to the presence of ancient waters, now flowing beneath the ground, in this inner-city valley.....
See full article HERE

Health equity for Māori – St John
The Aka strategy was developed by our Māori advisor team, Kāhui Mauaka and is one of the five key pillars of our strategy, Manaaki Ora. It represents our commitment to progressing the aspirations of Te Tīriti o Waitangi (the reo Māori version of the Treaty of Waitangi) by uplifting te Ao Māori (the Māori worldview) and fostering mana Motuhake Māori (Māori autonomy), through its vision, values and everyday mahi.....
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Jones push back on treaty creep
New Zealand First deputy leader Shane Jones says the party wants to counter some of the overblown rhetoric about Te Tiriti o Waitangi.

He says the party will be at Ratana and Waitangi, where many of the new coalition Government’s policies are expected to come under fire.

He says Aotearoa Tuatahi has deeper concerns about the economic challenges facing the country rather than fashionable new interpretations of the treaty.

“I’m going to call time through our part n this frothy rhetoric that the treaty is a charter of Indigenous sovereignty. That is a view people are entitled to argue. It is not the view of New Zealand First and you cannot continually revise the treaty or tug it in all nooks and crannies of parliamentary legislation without standing back and saying ‘bold on a minute, is this actually enriching, emboldening or enjoining our nation to a common purpose?’ No it is not,” Mr Jones says......
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Te Papa to 'renew' Tiriti display after protesters paint-bombed exhibit
Te Papa has today announced it will "renew" its Te Tiriti o Waitangi display to "meet the needs of today" following criticism over an English version of the founding document.

"The purpose of this exhibition is to provide space for conversations about the Treaty, and it needs to change to meet the needs of today," they said.

"Te Tiriti o Waitangi is important for all New Zealanders, and now is an appropriate time to move resource to this area."
See full article HERE

Government puts Māori and Pasifika university pathways under the spotlight
The Government is set to examine the Māori and Pacific Admission Scheme (MAPAS) and its Otago counterpart to determine if they are delivering desired outcomes.

Under the coalition agreement between National and Act, the University of Auckland scheme which allocates a percentage of entries in the health faculty to Māori and Pasifika students will be looked into.....
See full article HERE

Don Brash: Our democracy still under serious threat

Caleb Anderson: The Decline of the Western Project

Bruce Moon: “The whole truth and nothing but the truth” would be nice for a change would it not?

Barrie Davis: A Fairytale of New Zealand

Hahei coastal experiences put emphasis on history – DOC

National MPs who took reo Māori lessons hail its usefulness  

Tuesday December 19, 2023 

Iconic boat owner told to build new jetty, gift it to iwi, lease it back 
Terry and Raewyn Hammond operated Rotorua's iconic Lakeland Queen for 36 years until the Covid-19 pandemic forced the tourism business into hibernation, and 15 staff members were made redundant.

The pair now want to restore the business and need to replace their deteriorated lakefront jetty at an estimated cost of up to $460,000, but face what Terry Hammond views as a "preposterous" situation of being required to gift the new structure to iwi then lease it back.

Lakebed owner Te Arawa Lakes Trust said understanding the potential impact on the environment, water quality, taonga species and particularly regarding the dredging or lakebed disturbance required for the Lakeland Queen's channel, "we emphasise that any such action would be subject to approval from [the trust], who represent the interests of hapū and iwi as lakebed owners".....
See full article HERE

Te Papa exec promised to replace Te Tiriti exhibit two years ago, leaked email shows
Over two years ago, a Te Papa executive promised protesters that the Signs of a Nation exhibit, where versions of Te Tiriti o Waitangi is displayed, would be renewed and replaced, a leaked email shows.

A leaked email from October 26, 2021 shows Te Papa Director of Audience and Insights Puawai Cairns telling Te Waka Hourua that the museum was in the early stages of “renewing and replacing that exhibition.”

“The display is more than 20 years old and we recognise that ways of communicating about the Treaty have changed considerably since then.

“It needs to evolve, and it will”, she promised.....
See full article HERE

Prime Minister Christopher Luxon under fire for using public funds to learn te reo Māori
Taxpayers have paid for Prime Minister Christopher Luxon’s own Māori language classes, even as he criticised public servants for bonuses for its use.

Luxon appears guilty of a double standard after scolding bureaucrats for taking cash bonuses for understanding the Māori language, while using taxpayer funds to learn himself.

Public money has paid for Luxon’s private tuition in te reo, the Māori language, with the prime minister arguing it was “highly relevant” to his role.

After repeated requests, the Prime Minister’s office confirmed taxpayers paid for Luxon’s own classes using a budget offered to the leader of the Opposition....
See full article HERE

Social disharmony needs firm Māori response
He says the new Government is creating social disharmony on a scale never seen before, but Māori aren’t going to be pushed back in the gutter.

Mr Tamihere says the kotahitanga hui called at Turangawaewae on January 20 followed by Ratana and Waitangi should send a message to ACT leader David Seymour and New Zealand’s racist white underbelly that Māori will not tolerate what they have planned.....
See full article HERE

Regional museum collection storage facility gifted name – Invercargill City Council
The treasures that tell a story of Southland’s past have begun to be shifted into their new home. That home has now been bestowed with a fitting new name: Te Pataka Taoka Southern Regional Collections Facility.....
See full article HERE

JC: Maori Have Still to Wake Up

Keeping a taonga alive for all of us

Challenge to Te Papa about its Te Tiriti exhibition

Meet The New Generation Of NZ Poets Who Have The World Listening

Debate over race relations rages in NZ as new government repeals key social policies

Health minister Shane Reti responsible for review of Māori and Pacific Admissions Scheme he graduated from

New Green Party MP Tamatha Paul is defending the actions of the protestors who defaced the Treaty of Waitangi at Te Papa Museum

Māori moved to protest

Māori language edicts strains NZ government

PM warned on scrapping te mana o te wai policy

Pakeha activists roused to support tiriti

We won’t let progress slip without a fight  

Monday December 18, 2023 

Sports grounds or sacred battle site — tussle looms 
An East Coast sports club has been operating for more than 40 years as the heartbeat of the community. But some members of the local iwi say the land is sacred and should be handed back to descendants of the original owners

.....claiming it was sourced illegally and labelling it “wa¯ hi tapu” due to bloody battles there centuries earlier.

And a descendant of the land’s original owner has told the Herald on Sunday sports should no longer be played there out of respect for the fallen.....(NZ Herald paywall)
See full article HERE

South Taranaki District Council and iwi agree on strategy for working together
South Taranaki’s mayor has likened a new partnership strategy negotiated with the district’s four iwi as being like a good marriage – where views can differ, but both sides work together for everybody’s good.

He Pou Tikanga – the Ngā iwi-Council Partnership Strategy defines the ways in which the council and the four iwi in South Taranaki will work together.....
See full article HERE

Shaneel Lal: Te reo Māori makes us richer in so many ways

New coalition Government dubbed 'anti-Māori' as culture wars rage in New Zealand  

Sunday December 17, 2023 

Bi-lingual signs aid communication 
Neuro-diverse tamariki who don’t speak are being encouraged to play in public spaces via new communication boards.

The first of a series of seven boards throughout Kāpiti Coast was unveiled at Haruātai Park in Ōtaki on November 30. On hand were representatives of Kāpiti Coast District Council and Ngā Hapū o Ōtaki, who collaborated on the project that includes information in te reo Māori.

The council’s play projects coordinator, Cat Wylde, says the communication boards are part of a process to make local playgrounds accessible for all abilities.

“We’re really pleased to see the first of these signs installed and look forward to more being rolled out across Ōtaki and the wider district soon.”....
See full article HERE

'A shared future': New marina not just a marina
That was very much the theme at the official opening of the $30 million Waikawa North West Marina on Friday afternoon, with young and old gathering for the occasion. The formal ribbon-cutting duties fell to the former, many of them pupils at Waikawa Bay School.

Justin Carter, chief executive of Te Ātiawa o te Waka-a-Māui Trust, said the iwi had been on a long journey with Port Marlborough to deliver the marina, and he was pleased with the outcome.

It was important the project acknowledged “how important the area was and is to Te Ātiawa”, he said.

Earlier in the day, Te Ātiawa and Port Marlborough signed a kawenata, or covenant, to acknowledge the relationship they had built over the past decade or so, bringing the marina together......
See full article HERE

Mike Butler: What is this thing called ‘rangatiratanga’?

All should understand history of Te Tiriti

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Robert Arthur said...

Many Councillors and staff are very naive. It is one of the problems of encouraging younger persons. The outdoor signs at Otaki, whether aimed at maori or not, will be vandalised within months.After all, even the local maori church built by te Rauparaha was destoryed by vandals.The only resonably safe place is in an inside monitored loaction, like a library.
and it remarakble to read of maori co-operating with a marina. Presumably there is some lucrative revenue sharing deal. (Personally I symathise with the more usual maori approach. Once beautiful harbours everywhere have been turned into boat parks for the ostentatiosly affluent; about as visually inspiring as the import cars on Auckalnd's wharves, but which latter are only there part of the time.)

Anonymous said...

I am not sure personally, how a battle site can be sacred although the winners may deem it so.

Seems to me best outcome is to continue playing sport and bring community and joy to the spot rather than morbid fascination with brutal tribal warfare. If London and Berlin can rebuild themselves in the face of horrors then so too can a battlefield be a sports ground.

By all means give the dead a decent burial and memorial- personalised if possible- but otherwise it looks like a blatant power game and retrograde behaviour.

Anonymous said...

Is there any part of this land that could not be rendered tapu as the location of a battle site?

Robert Arthur said...

It will be interesting to learn the private views of the Mayor of South Traanaki in a few years time. After hours of manipulative, obstructive mana seeking meetings, powhiri, in maori time his present views will likely change.

It seems mana seeking is rife in Tokomaru Bay. I would have thought any sports club there would have such a maori component that it would be immune to maori obstructiveness. If everywhere in Europe where someone fell in conflict at some time was out of bounds, the citizens would have nowhere to live. Polack records maori total unconcern for burial sites not directly their own. But if mana is to be gained no opportumity to tweak colonist noses should be passed up. Probably someone has perceived scope for a lucrative subdivison

Anonymous said...

what 'battle'? i thought the new NZ history curriculum shows that the 'indigenous' were the most peaceful and scientific community before colonialism messed it up!

Anonymous said...

Iconic boat owner told to build new jetty, gift it to iwi, lease it back!!

Tell them (GRIFTERS) to go and 'ELON MUSK' themselves!!

robert Arthur said...

Re 19th. It is incredible the fuss mounted by msm about the PM receiving subsidised funds to learn maori. In their typical current pro maori manner RNZ has given it prominence far beyond its importance. It seems he used monies provided for anything remotely associated his job. Jacinda should have taken a course on the Treaty as she could not even recall the 3 Articles (probably now taught in kindergarden, and certainly in maori ones). Luxon needs to know enough te reo to recognise when he is being mocked by maori. The pro maori faction should be rejoicing that he shows (or very convincingly feigns) enthusiasm for the stone age hobby language, now largely contrived. If Winston and Seymour, the leaders who swung the election, had total control the approach to te reo would likely be far less benign. Personally I think Luxon should be paid for his valuable time frittered on obsolete twaddle.

And Tamahere continues his extreme inciteful language, whilst accusing others! It seems not to occur the him that the propoganda from Walker, ultra glib Moana Jackson, Motu and co have had a far more destabilising effect on relations in NZ than any of the rational logic now being vented.

Anonymous said...

The way msm attack luxon is disgusting. They shut down comments when people stick up for luxon. l never read nz herald, except to skim headlines as quick as possible, just to make sure nothing serious has happened.
After the spiteful, nasty hipkins, luxon is such a relief to many kiwis.

Anonymous said...

Not just msm in NZ but Luxon gets bad rap in Aus too.

Anonymous said...

Did you read the Rotorua jetty debacle ? What on earth is happening whereby local businesses folk are allowed to be shafted by iwi greed?

Anonymous said...

Further to the jetty disgrace … Pelorus Cafe which DOC in its wisdom saw fit to put out to tender and enable Maori input thereby closing the much loved operating business, remains closed. There was one bid in the tender. Apparently the site will open again at some stage.

What a waste of good businesses and an extortion.

ihcpcoro said...

Were the other Treaty partners consulted when Labour ESTABLISHED the Maori Health Authority?

Robert Arthur said...

re 20th. RNZ ran a programme where sundry persons, several trace maori, expressed the view that the race based medical student priority system was very successful. But they did not interview any non maori from basic backgrounds and who had worked conscientiously and hard to qualify only to be deposed by some lesser qualified trace maori, in some cases more white than them, and even blue eys not a disqualification.
Is there a market for brown contact lens for use in modern appointment applications?

Anonymous said...

Waitangi Tribunal ain't use to the word NO. They had better get use to it and prepare for more of the same. They also need to be defunded ASAP.

Anonymous said...

Treaty partners? What complete and utter nonsense. There aren’t any.

Ray S said...

Tuesday 19
Rotorua lakebed "owners" want anything built at the lake to be gifted to them then leased back. What an absolute rort. Disgusting.

Perhaps the Lakeland Queen owners could build a floating dock tied to the land with nothing on the lake bed. Make it long enough to reach deeper water.

The opening ceremony should include a one finger salute to "owners" of the lake bed.

Robert Arthur said...

re 21st. Some maori names for govt agencies are mercifully brief and have become established. It is quite appropriate for informal use to continue until the English becomes common again. Although some English is almost as obscure as the te reo."Homes and commumities"? They might provide houses but homes require more than buildings and subsidies. And what exactly does "communities" refer to? Should it more accurately be ghettos, for some of the devlopments near me exhibit many of the characteristics?

And note how National mps are reported as "admitting" receiving funded te reo lessons, as if it some crime. Presumably there should be some law stating that all te reo instruction must be paid for by the recipients. At all levels, including pre school and school. I would not object.

A pity Tremain resting. He could draw some corporate maori wheeling a barrow load of money (Labelled "koha, tax exempt to recipient") to Luxon's house to encourage him to continue. it would seem in maori unterest to support, unless they do not want their insults to be immedaitely recognised by non maori, thus lessening the mana brownie points acquird..

Anonymous said...

ACT, NZ First hesitant to criticise National over 'Kāinga Ora' name??

Do not hesitate ACT/NZF, this is why you were voted in to fight this minority part Maori apartheid co-governance BS.

We the people don't want APARTHEID in any way shape or form anymore. We have had enough and paid enough for this failed communist experiment.

Anonymous said...

what's this fascination to add this adjective 'te reo' with maori language incessantly? after all english is a language and a race/enthicity/nationality (same for french, spanish, portuguese, italian etc.).

no one ever says 'engilsh language' - they say english and everyone understands if it refers to language or not based on the context. why do we think public becomes a moron when maori is mentioned?

even more confusing is a mention of only 'te reo'. it would mean 'the language' - how is one to understand that it automatically refers to maori? isn't it bigoted to assume that maori don't know any other language?

Anonymous said...

Spiritual care in the health system?

NZ is a secular state. God help us ( pun intended) if that changes.

Let people do their own spiritual thing in their own way in their own time on their own money.

robert Arthur said...

Surely the storage building should be titled Southern Region Collection Facility (Te Patoka Taoka) with the brackets smaller letters.
It is almost as if a deliberately bland and vague wording of the English has been adopted to encourage use of the te reo. Pro maori have infiltrated evrywhere and exert subtle and not so subtle influence everywhere. Others are too busy and/or too scared of cancellation to question.

Anonymous said...

Recently I was advised by my Doctor to attend a free appointment with a HIP - Health Improvement Practioner. The first question I was asked was how (on a scale of 1-10) was I doing spiritually? I was taken aback and explained that I didn't usually discuss my spirituality with my Doctor. I am a Christian but realised this was not what they were referring to. The question is what were they referring to? And how would this be relevant to most people? In the end I realised the HIPwas just doing her job and reading off a computer screen and entering my answers so I didn't take it personally but it wasn't what I expected and I declined any further appointments even if they were free. So this sort of thing is already being implemented. This happened at my local medical centre in Wellington.